Rally de Portugal 2008

[Sulland]

]Which of those stages were in last year WRC rally?

Not sure of todays ss, but Henning S saw 1 or 2 yesterday that said he drove last year !

[Mirek]

Thanks. Sola is still where he was yesterday...

[darkstar]

basso overtook magalhaes and is 8th now.

ss9 already startet, first splits should come up soon.

[Sulland]

Hopefully they have fixed the engine of Sola for today !!!

Not !!
Amazing, a whole rally with "broken" car !!

[Tom206wrc]

basso overtook magalhaes and is 8th now.

ss9 already startet, first splits should come up soon.



I think Magalhaes has another strategy, to keep the lead of his national championship... :rolleyes:

[Mirek]

Sulland: Sometimes it is still something to fight for even with a broken car ;) Last weekend Emil Triner drove whole rally Cesky Krumlov without third gear in his Impreza and finished 9th overall :)

[Mirek]

Alen started very slow...

[Tom206wrc]

Slow split 1 for Anton Alen too :confused:

[[Madeira-Rally]]

I think Magalhaes has another strategy, to keep the lead of his national championship... :rolleyes:

No Tom.. MAgalhães said that the stage wasn't good for him.. his pace notes weren't ok..

[Tom206wrc]

Duval has a great split 1 on SS9 :eek:

[Sulland]

]Sulland: Sometimes it is still something to fight for even with a broken car ;) Last weekend Emil Triner drove whole rally Cesky Krumlov without third gear in his Impreza and finished 9th overall :)

I fully agree, love that, but the team need a tech course at Abarth.. :s panner:

[darkstar]

first splits on ss9 now, duval 6 secons faster then rossetti and 9 faster then vouilloz on first split :eek:

[Mirek]

It looks like Bernardo Sousa is out again.

[Tom206wrc]

They are slow to give other results on SS9 :confused:

[[Madeira-Rally]]

]It looks like Bernardo Sousa is out again.

Sousa had a puncture...

[Tom206wrc]

Dudu back at +9s of Rossetti !!!

[Tom206wrc]

No first split for Tirabassi :confused:

[darkstar]

Dudu back at +9s of Rossetti !!!

amazing time! vouilloz sadly lost lots of time in this stage :(

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Auriol is having some problems in the car... he don't know exactly what..

[[Madeira-Rally]]

No split for Brice...

EDIT: Brice had an off...

[darkstar]

]No split for Brice...

EDIT: Brice had an off...


that sucks, he had a nice fight with auriol...

[Sulland]

Can Tirabassi be blocking, since the results stopped coming ?

[[Madeira-Rally]]

]Sousa had a puncture...


Sousa had a puncture.. changed the tyre.. and then had an off and is out of the rally! :s mokin:

[Norri]

I can't understand result table on SS8. Some cars are not in SS and some cars are not after SS...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Can Tirabassi be blocking, since the results stopped coming ?

No.. results are working quite ok...

[Mirek]

Norri: Portuguese champ has both legs as separate rallys and there is also no superally in IRC standings.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Campos his having some problems too.. and he don't know what it is..

[Tom206wrc]

SJJ is 14th overall after SS8...if it goes on he could enter the top 10 by the end of the rally :D

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Solá... continue with the same problems of yesterday... :(

[Sulland]

Will be interesting to see how Rosetti reacts to the pressure from Duval on the nest stages, if Duval have upped his speed !

Does Rosetti have what it takes ?

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Problems for Araújo too..
he said he don't have turbo...

[Mirek]

Kopecký onboard :)

SS4: http://www.mediasport.cz/multimedia/videa/wrc/08porugal_kopec_ss4.wmv

SS6: http://www.mediasport.cz/multimedia/videa/wrc/08portugal_kopec_ss6.wmv

[Tom206wrc]

What about Stohl ??? No results yet... :confused:



Edit: OK results have come

[Madeira]

I've been seeing the portuguese tv images from SS9 and I can tell you that it was a big show. Duval was amazing..completly maximum attack!
Very very good Luca Rossetti, as you know he is the first on road and he is doing some miracles on the road believe me...

[Sulland]

]Norri: Portuguese champ has both legs as separate rallys and there is also no superally in IRC standings.

So the drivers that stopped at stage yesterday, ala Alen does not get in on the IRC results in any way shape or form, is that correct ?

[Mirek]

I think so.

[Sulland]

Anton with second fastest on ss9; 5,7 sec behind Duval !!

He must be really pissed of what happened to the car, he needs all the gravel points he can get !

[Madeira]

SS10-Marcus Gronholm-16.16.7 (zero car)

[Madeira]

problems for Duval.... He sttoped!!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

It seem that Duval is sttopped before the start of stage 10 :(

[Tom206wrc]

Where's Dudu on SS10 ??? :eek:

[Tom206wrc]

Big problem for Vouilloz too :s

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Vouilloz with problems too..

[darkstar]

what a pitty...

[Tom206wrc]

Will be first IRC podium for Kopecky ??? :confused:

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Duval retired..

[Madeira]

Duval is out, problems on the wheel...(no puncture)

[Tom206wrc]

No split for Auriol neither :confused:

[Sulland]

What a pity, was hoping for a real fight !

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Vouilloz had a puncture....

[Madeira]

Puncture for Vouilloz!!

[Sulland]

The S2000 cars are taking a hit, maybe the N4 cars will hold better. More proven.

[Mirek]

Do You think that N4 proves better reliability in this rally or even in Turkey? I realy don't think so. :D

[Madeira]

Kopecky too soft the tyres choice but it's ok with him!

[darkstar]

s**t!!! that sucks! and vouilloz lost also 3 minutes whats going on with him?

edit: ah ok, he had a puncture...

[Mirek]

5 posts upper there is written it was a puncture ;)

[darkstar]

]5 posts upper there is written it was a puncture ;)

yes i saw it...

[Madeira]

The stage results are unable now, but Basso did the best time!

[Tom206wrc]

No time for Basso and the others yet ??? :confused:

[Sulland]

Madeira, have they said more on what happened to Duval ?

More results than that basso won ss10 ?

[Madeira]

Madeira, have they said more on what happened to Duval ?

More results than that basso won ss10 ?
Yes Basso was the winner of SS10, if I'm not wrong he did 16.32...

Well Duval is out, he had a problem on the wheel, in english I don't now how it say, in portuguese is " rolamento"...you can try any online translation maybe!
Edit: maybe bearing of the wheel...

[dimviii]

wheel ball bearing? Madeira? :rolleyes:

[Madeira]

wheel ball bearing? Madeira? :rolleyes:

Yes I think so, you are right!! :p :

[Tom206wrc]

Vouilloz isn't far from Auriol(3rd overall)and could get this position at the end of the rally :)

[Tom206wrc]

Also Stohl isn't far from Campos position for the last IRC point ;)

[darkstar]

Vouilloz isn't far from Auriol(3rd overall)and could get this position at the end of the rally :)

yes thats true, without further problems he couldt easily reach 3rd place.

[Mirek]

But if Auriol gets his car repaired and reaches his pace from yesterday, than it won't be that easy for Nico ;)

[HaCo]

Ugh, when will Belgians get some luck at international level :(

[Tom206wrc]

Retirement again for Janika :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

Any assistance news before start of last stages row ???? :confused:

[Sulland]

Ugh, when will Belgians get some luck at international level :(

Will come with the Polo !! ;)

[Sulland]

If his car holds together, Rosetti has this one boxed. But you never know, one puncture and then it is all over !

[dimviii]

video from Loule1 ss 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6kSMhFbnWE

[Luis Pacheco]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdrzcTbL7Rg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdrzcTbL7Rg)
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6kSMhFbnWE (http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6kSMhFbnWE)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Any assistance news before start of last stages row ???? :confused:

They are in service park now...

[Sulland]

First car on stage, start 1531 cet.

[Tom206wrc]

SS11 running now, normally ;)

[Madeira]

Marcus Gronholm-SS11 12.17.5 (zero car)

[Abarth]

Go Abarth - Go Auriol and Basso, the only top Abarths left !!!!!!

Keep it running or this will be a total 207 victory in S2000

[Tom206wrc]

Rossetti is well slower than on first passage(split 1) :confused:

[Madeira]

Some showers on this stage!
Edit: Everything is ok with Luca Rossetti.

[Mirek]

Alen and Sola out?

[Tom206wrc]

Retirements for Sola and Alen :mark:

[Sulland]

Rosetti has started to protect the top spot !

No surprize with Sola - sick car
Alen - guess he just wanted to confirm his speed, nothing to drive for

[Mirek]

Does "avaria" mean a crash or a mechanical failure? In Czech and in Polish it is completely different :D

[Tom206wrc]

Vouilloz 8.8s faster than Rossetti and 29s faster than Kopecky ;)

[Madeira]

]Does "avaria" mean a crash or a mechanical failure? In Czech and in Polish it is completely different :D

Is a mechanical failure, but I'm waiting for another reports about that!

[Mirek]

Where is Auriol? I think he should start infront of Hanninen...

[Tom206wrc]

Where is Didi ??? :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Where's Basso ??? :eek:


Edit: OK Basso is after Magalhes anyway...

[harriswrc]

Auriol retired. Suspension failure

[N.O.T]

Auriol is the top fiat punto !!!! amazing performance...and the gap to the leader is not a lot after 1.5 days for an event with such competiton.....

[Madeira]

According website of rally Didier is out due suspension problems

[Tom206wrc]

Basso lonely Fiat driver(and Hänninen lonely Mitsu driver)among the Peugeots... :s

[Madeira]

It was a completly disaster the performance of Fiat in this rally..!!

[Mirek]

Yes, Alen twice retired, Duval retired, Auriol retired, Sola retired and all of them due to the technical problems :(

[Tom206wrc]

Stohl faster than Rossetti on split 1 :eek:

[Tom206wrc]

2nd best time behind Vouilloz for Manfred :D

[Tom206wrc]

Stohl also passes Campos for the 7th position overall ;)

SS12 running...

[Tom206wrc]

On split 1 SS12 Rossetti is losing about 20s on Vouilloz and Kopecky...

[dimviii]

seems that Rossetti just cruising to finish(as Kopecky) big gaps behind them :)

edit Kopecky fast as Vouilloz

[Sulland]

We need more brands in IRC, as it is now 207 is too good !

VAG come on, Polo and Fabia in IRC ASAP !!!

Then MG and Proton

Suzuki will take more time, and will if they continue be focussed on WRC (R5)

[Mirek]

As it is wet gr.N cars are now equal in speed...

[Tom206wrc]

Rossetti keeps an advantage of 43s over Kopecky, I think enough to run the last stage ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Magalhaes was shortly faster than Vouilloz and Kopecky :)

[Tom206wrc]

Basso fastest again on split 1...

[dimviii]

Hanninen too fast at this stage,may want to protect 4th position from Basso :rolleyes:

[Mirek]

Basso is pushing like hell. He needs 4 seconds to Hanninen on the last stage. Lets watch the fight :)

[Tom206wrc]

And Stohl even faster than Basso on split 1 :eek:

[Wim_Impreza]

Basso lonely Fiat driver(and Hänninen lonely Mitsu driver)among the Peugeots... :s

As I said before this season, it will be only a Peugeot Cup on the top...

[dimviii]

easy job for Basso...the difficult job is with peugeots :p :

[Mirek]

We can see that again in wet conditions Pirelli are going up (Stohl + PWRC guys).

[HaCo]

Where do you guys find results? The results page on my browser goes nuts... and stays white. :)

[Mirek]

http://www.acp-on-line.com/online08/index.asp

Or a bit later on http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php?event=190&stage=3557&category=&group=

[Madeira]

Armindo Araújo told to the journalists that if he had not the problems with the turbo yesterday and today he could be on the top fighting for top places... the car is better now.

[N.O.T]

Auriol out :( :( :( :( :(

[Madeira]

]Yes, Alen twice retired, Duval retired, Auriol retired, Sola retired and all of them due to the technical problems :(

But, do not forget, Fiat must have a winner today for IRC series!!!
The name of this hero is Marco Cavigioli for the IRC 2WD Cup... :disturb:

[Mirek]

Madeira: ROFL :D :D :D

[Tom206wrc]

Last stage running ;)

[Madeira]

Marcus Gronholm-SS13 16.54.8 (Zero Car)

Marcus said that there are some mud in the last kms of this stage..

[Tom206wrc]

"Only" 14s lost by Rossetti on Vouilloz on split 1... ;)

But Kopecky is more dangerous as he's clother in the leaderboard :p :



Edit: Kopecky doesn't attack in fact...

[Madeira]

Janika is definitely out of race!!

[Tom206wrc]

Vouilloz was finally 30s faster than Rossetti, but the italian is definitely the winner of the event(as Kopecky isn't pushing neither) ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Kopecky finished with a great result, 2nd overall for his second IRC event :up:

[Sulland]

Can Basso take Hanninen on ss13 ????

[Madeira]

Congratulations for Italian and Peugeot fans. The last Italian driver who has won in Portugal was Massimo Biasion. 18 years later we have Luca Rossetti!

[Sulland]

Yes congrats to Rosetti, two in a row !

[Madeira]

Yes congrats to Rosetti, two in a row !
No, four in row!

[Sulland]

No, four in row!

Yes you are right, but two in 08 !

He can be hard to crack in the end of the season.

He is good in staying out of trouble !!

[Tom206wrc]

Any times for Hänninen and the others ???? :confused:

[Sulland]

Hanninen I am waiting !!! No time for the on line timing to fu.. up !! :o

Sorry Hanninen 2.5 behind, well done Basso !!!

[dimviii]

congrats to Rossetti :s mokin:

also congrats to peugeot for the reliable 207,and to Hanninen for the good speed he had even if Basso pass him :p :

[Madeira]

Yes you are right, but two in 08 !

He can be hard to crack in the end of the season.

He is good in staying out of trouble !!


Yes I know, I'm just kidding...

Nice rally also for Kopecky!

[Tom206wrc]

Good time from Stohl once again :)

[Mirek]

Congratulation for IRC version of U.F.O. called Rossetti :)

I'm also happy with Kopecký's performance :)

[Wim_Impreza]

Congratulations for Rossetti, great drive again.

Nice to see Kopecký has finished second, excellent.

[kabouter]

The competition that Rossetti is beating is getting more impressive by the event. The rally had a wonderful entry list, let's see what line-up we'll have in Ypres. And let's see if Rossetti can repeat last year's win. Judging by the results so far, there's every chance he'll do that :)

[Sulland]

Congrats also to Kopecky, Vouilloz, Basso and Hanninen for putting on a great rally.

It just looks like the french car has a bit more stamina than the Italian, but when everything is working they look pretty evenly matched.

But lets see if we can get a couple of Polos and MGs in Ypres to see if they can match the two others !?

[HaCo]

Awesome result again for Rosetti. He SHOULD be doing full IRC, he is the man, a 100% win ratio in IRC!
Good for Basso that he could finnish fourth, but what a bad event for FIAT, hope they can do (much) better next time. If Duval his car wasn't broken he could have go for the top spot, but it's rallying and reliability is as important as speed.
Then Kopecky second, what an awesome result for the privateer!

Campos was very dissapointing and Stohl, why is he so far behind as well?

[Madeira]

Miguel Campos was the last retirement of the rally.. alternator troubles!!

[N.O.T]

Whjat a great event.....how many different stage winners did we have ?? 7 ??? is that some kind of a record ????

[Tom206wrc]

Miguel Campos was the last retirement of the rally.. alternator troubles!!



:(

[RS]

Campos was very dissapointing and Stohl, why is he so far behind as well?

To be fair to Stohl it was his first event in an S2000. He got quicker at the end but his lack of outright speed here just shows how competitive IRC is. Even Duval wasn't in a class of his own.

Re: Stohl though - I feel his future efforts would be better concentrated at running a full IRC campaign in a 207 rather than an old 307 in WRC 2009. He stands more of a chance at good results with that car in IRC. I think IRC is perfect for drivers like Stohl - with money but also with some talent - because privateers really can compete with the works teams in IRC.

[chryby]

a few pictures from second leg and a few from finish podium:
http://rally-mania.cz/med.php?g=378&au=0

[StevieWonder]

Campos was very dissapointing and Stohl, why is he so far behind as well?[/QUOTE]


stohl´s performance was very good:
- first time in an S2000
- performance was getting better and better
- finishing in a 2nd place on SS12
- but no chance after having a puncture on day 1

[Sulland]

To be fair to Stohl it was his first event in an S2000. He got quicker at the end but his lack of outright speed here just shows how competitive IRC is. Even Duval wasn't in a class of his own.

Re: Stohl though - I feel his future efforts would be better concentrated at running a full IRC campaign in a 207 rather than an old 307 in WRC 2009. He stands more of a chance at good results with that car in IRC. I think IRC is perfect for drivers like Stohl - with money but also with some talent - because privateers really can compete with the works teams in IRC.

I fully agree. IRC can be a very good place for people on their way up, people that has been in WRC but still want to have some fun behind the wheel, and also for the "gentleman driver", with cash and a wish to enjoy themselves.

IRC is a much better alternative than in a private team in WRC. In IRC you have the same car as the best, and actually stand a chance if you as a driver is good enough.

Will be interesting to see if Grønholm comes back in a S2000 car sometime. Have anyone seen any comments from him on IRC and S2000 ?

[pavlos_a]

Dont forget that Stohl Haninen Aigner and some other were usin Pirellis. Stohl was really fast. With the same tyres as the others, he would have been in the pace for sure

[Sulland]

Dont forget that Stohl Haninen Aigner and some other were usin Pirellis. Stohl was really fast. With the same tyres as the others, he would have been in the pace for sure

Good point, but do we know that the Pirellis are so much slower than BFG. If so how much pr km ?

Are the tyres they use here the same as in WRC when they were both there, or another set of tyres ?

[pavlos_a]

If they were using the WRC control tires, there are for sure slower than the BF. But during the last loop which was wet, they closed the gap. Duval was using BF

[Mirek]

I think that WRC controled tyres are not available for rally outside WRC.

[pavlos_a]

You can have tires from Pirelli. But even if they were using Pirelli K's, the BF were faster the last years in the WRC. But i think the Mitsubishi were using the control tyres for practice and set-up for Acropolis...

[Mirek]

I think that the tyre rulle doesn't allow that.

[pavlos_a]

]I think that the tyre rulle doesn't allow that.

Check this photo...
http://www.ircseries.com/html/gallery/showImg.asp?sess=838307856&id=86

[Mirek]

Sorry but dirrect links are not working in IRC official gallery.

[DonJippo]

]I think that the tyre rulle doesn't allow that.

You can buy Pirelli control tyres for use outside of WRC.

[pavlos_a]

In Aigners photo, it looks like the WRC tires. It is logical to use them since he needs the data and setup for Acropolis Rally ( also Haninen, Sousa etc)

[Rally Power]

Congratulations must be given to the organisers of these Portugal Rally: well done :cool:
Great effort on the security issue and a faultless development of the course (with beautiful and exciting ss).
Besides the Rally de Portugal, the ACP (Automóvel Club de Portugal) will organise a european hillclimb course (Serra da Estrela in next weekend), two major international TT rallys (Transibérico and Portalegre) and the Rally de Portugal Historico, a historic regularity event that visits the old days routes of the Portugal Rally (Sintra, Arganil, Caramulo, etc).

[Sardalense]

A picture from SS 6

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t208/Sardalense/pt1.jpg

[Jordib]

Good point, but do we know that the Pirellis are so much slower than BFG. If so how much pr km ?

Are the tyres they use here the same as in WRC when they were both there, or another set of tyres ?

I don't think there is a big difference between BFG and Pirelli on the same S2000 cars, because Dani Solà was on Pirelli tyres in Turkey and he was doing so good times almost all the rally, even on dry conditions.
In Portugal should have been interesting to compare both Procar Puntos from Duval and Solà with different tyre makers but it was not really possible due to the engine problems in Solà's Punto from the start of the rally :(

[Mirek]

New photos from Petr Lusk on http://www.ewrc.cz. You can see that Sousa had a big crash:
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2008/ostatni/portugal/pl_c_140_sousa_1.jpg

[wwbroe]

Hi guys, i just returned from Portugal, and we really saw an awesome rally, with very nice stages and a great entrylist. I saw 11 of the 13 stages and i was impressed by the close battle and speed of the S2000 cars. Being a Belgian i hope the bad luck for Belgian drivers will stop and they will have some luck in future. Especially Loix is having a lot of bad luck. He is one of the cleanest drivers, but it is most of the time been hold back by punctures. Kopecky and Rosetti did very good rally, but if you see them being all over the place, you wonder why they don't get punctures, while more clean driving pilots do have them. After Loix puncture in SS5, where he changed the wheel in about two minutes, he was in the dust of Basso who just passed him when he was restarting the car. After that puncture he didn't have any spare left and at the next stage the automatic fire-extinguisher went off, and Freddy was out of concentration for just a moment and hit a stone. As a result of that he had another flat tyre, drove on for another 9 Kms, but then stopped. He had still to do the liaison to last stage and do the last stage and had to get back to srvice on the rim, witch was quite impossible, so he had to retire. He was certainly capable of fighting for victory and was extremely dissapointed by his retirement. Also Duval had bad luck, at the moment that he was in an ideal position to take victory. I saw some amazing passages of him, where he was beating evrybody else.
Also good drives of Kopecky, Stohl and especially Rosetti, who always seems to stay out of trouble. He is really consistant and not always the fastest man around, but at the end he is always in front. He could very well been out of the rally after about 50 metres in SuperSS where he hit concrete bordure, but the doesn't damage his rim, alltough pieces of concrete were flying around, i guess that is just the "good luck" of a real winner. Magalhaes was really very fast, as expected but was a little to generous in his driving style and taking quite a lot of risks, so it didn't really pay off, and he calmed down thinking about his championship lead in the Portugese championship.
Also sad end for Campos, who retired after the finish of the last stage, alltough he could never match the speed of the other victory-contenders.

[Leon]

Hi guys, i just returned from Portugal, and we really saw an awesome rally, with very nice stages and a great entrylist. I saw 11 of the 13 stages and i was impressed by the close battle and speed of the S2000 cars. Being a Belgian i hope the bad luck for Belgian drivers will stop and they will have some luck in future. Especially Loix is having a lot of bad luck. He is one of the cleanest drivers, but it is most of the time been hold back by punctures. Kopecky and Rosetti did very good rally, but if you see them being all over the place, you wonder why they don't get punctures, while more clean driving pilots do have them. After Loix puncture in SS5, where he changed the wheel in about two minutes, he was in the dust of Basso who just passed him when he was restarting the car. After that puncture he didn't have any spare left and at the next stage the automatic fire-extinguisher went off, and Freddy was out of concentration for just a moment and hit a stone. As a result of that he had another flat tyre, drove on for another 9 Kms, but then stopped. He had still to do the liaison to last stage and do the last stage and had to get back to srvice on the rim, witch was quite impossible, so he had to retire. He was certainly capable of fighting for victory and was extremely dissapointed by his retirement. Also Duval had bad luck, at the moment that he was in an ideal position to take victory. I saw some amazing passages of him, where he was beating evrybody else.
Also good drives of Kopecky, Stohl and especially Rosetti, who always seems to stay out of trouble. He is really consistant and not always the fastest man around, but at the end he is always in front. He could very well been out of the rally after about 50 metres in SuperSS where he hit concrete bordure, but the doesn't damage his rim, alltough pieces of concrete were flying around, i guess that is just the "good luck" of a real winner. Magalhaes was really very fast, as expected but was a little to generous in his driving style and taking quite a lot of risks, so it didn't really pay off, and he calmed down thinking about his championship lead in the Portugese championship.
Also sad end for Campos, who retired after the finish of the last stage, alltough he could never match the speed of the other victory-contenders.

Thanks for sharing your experience with us

[Madeira]

]New photos from Petr Lusk on http://www.ewrc.cz. You can see that Sousa had a big crash:


Yeah!!! this is a sensation which he knows very well!!

[CricketsFilm]

I returned this night from Portugal... another great race and another great place!!!

[Mirek]

Cricket: Do You know what was exact reason for Didier's retirement?

[Sulland]

What does Stohl have to say ?
Can anyone translate please ?

http://rally-mania.cz/index.php?vypisVse=detail&id=5147

[Mirek]

He says that there are some negotiations about some other possible IRC starts. He says that especialy Russia is atractive for Stohl racing as a company and that it worth thinking about...

[PLuto]

What does Stohl have to say ?
Can anyone translate please ?

http://rally-mania.cz/index.php?vypisVse=detail&id=5147

Original version of this article you can find here: http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?stid=6974

[CricketsFilm]

]Cricket: Do You know what was exact reason for Didier's retirement?

Yes,He broke a suspension in a cut.... in a pile of wood...

[CricketsFilm]

Inserted OnLine Camera OnBoard of Didier Auriol-Denis Giraudet (Abarth Punto S2000 - Grifone), all S.S. 3 Rally de Portugal 2008, on:

http://www.cricketsfilm.tv "Grifone Channel TV"

[Mirek]

Thank You.

[CricketsFilm]

OnLine also the video OnBoard of Didier Auriol-Denis Giraudet (Abarth Punto S2000 - Grifone) S.S. 8 to Rally de Portugal 2008, on:

http://www.cricketsfilm.tv "Grifone Channel TV" or "CricketsFilm TV Channel"

[pettersolberg29]

This is a really long thread...

[M.S.]

Congratulations must be given to the organisers of these Portugal Rally: well done :cool:
Great effort on the security issue and a faultless development of the course (with beautiful and exciting ss).
Besides the Rally de Portugal, the ACP (Automóvel Club de Portugal) will organise a european hillclimb course (Serra da Estrela in next weekend), two major international TT rallys (Transibérico and Portalegre) and the Rally de Portugal Historico, a historic regularity event that visits the old days routes of the Portugal Rally (Sintra, Arganil, Caramulo, etc).


Congratulations????
Do you have anything to say about the quantity of public assisting to rally?Do you have any explication to this fact?
The reallity is we are tired of ACP restrictions to the public.So portuguese public is going to see IRC in Asturias.

[Mirek]

Chryby told the same. He said they were fed up with the ACP organisation retrictions :(

[Rally Power]

Congratulations????
Do you have anything to say about the quantity of public assisting to rally?Do you have any explication to this fact?
The reallity is we are tired of ACP restrictions to the public.So portuguese public is going to see IRC in Asturias.

:eek: I'm part of the portuguese public and I'm not going to the Asturias (and I'm not surely the only one...)

Here`s my opinion:
1. The ACP restritions are, in same cases, excessive but cannot be considered the main factor for the lack of spectators at this year event.
2. A lot of spectators (40 to 50%) of the Rali de Portugal are people that don't usually follow the sport. For them ours WRC event is the only rally they see and they do it because it's well knowned that WRC is a great show to watch (remember we all had almost 30 years of experience!!!). This year, when they heard IRC, no bell have ringed...
3. Even for the more interested ones (the other half) the absence of the "wrc party factor" made a lot harder their job of convincig wifes and bosses of the imperial necessity to go...
4. So because less people were going, there was fewer "cut expenses" opportunites. Algarve it's a bit distance and expensive to the Northern fans (the most entusiasts) and Portugal's economical environment is getting worse every day (only our PM have a different opinion!).

All this considered, I hope next year IRC event will be disputed at the North region (Arganil would be perfect), keeping the most popular and mediatic WRC rally at the Algarve :s mokin: