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Allyc85
17th March 2008, 19:14
From crash.net

1. Mat Jackson BMW Dealer Team UK BMW 320si 48.873secs I
2. Fabrizio Giovanardi VX Racing Vauxhall Vectra 48.894secs* M
3. Tom Chilton Team Halfords Honda Civic 49.005secs
4. Matt Neal VX Racing Vauxhall Vectra 49.069secs M
5. Tom Onslow-Cole VX Racing Vauxhall Vectra 49.150secs M
6. Andrew Jordan John Guest Racing Honda Integra 49.152secs I B
7. Matt Allison Robertshaw Racing Chevrolet Lacetti 49.158secs I
8. Darren Turner SEAT Sport UK SEAT Leon TDi 49.195secs M
9. Jason Plato SEAT Sport UK SEAT Leon TDi 49.200secs M
10. Gordon Shedden Team Halfords Honda Civic 49.232secs
11. Colin Turkington Team RAC BMW 320si 49.242secs* I
12. Stephen Jelley Team RAC BMW 320si 49.268secs I
13. Mike Jordan John Guest Racing Honda Integra 49.313secs* I B
14. Rob Collard Motorbase Performance BMW 320si 49.317secs I
15. Steven Kane Motorbase Performance BMW 320si 49.435secs I
16. Harry Vaulkhard Robertshaw Racing Chevrolet Lacetti 49.895secs I
17. John George TH Motorsport Racing with JAG Honda Integra 50.346secs I B
18. Alan Taylor Robertshaw Racing Honda Integra 50.541secs I B
19. Martyn Bell Arkas Racing with Sunshine.co.uk Vauxhall Astra 51.289secs I

Really suprised to see Seat so far down the times! Allison and Andrew Jordan did well :)

tdb
17th March 2008, 19:43
from 3rd down to 14th on a cold day in march only 3 tenths in it, hmmmm, could mean carnage at paddock hill in race one.

BDunnell
17th March 2008, 19:46
Looks as if the Vectra is a bit quicker round Brands relative to the Seat this year — unless the Seats are sandbagging, of course.

Mp3 Astra
17th March 2008, 20:59
Gio was so much faster than everyone else!

On the topic of the test day, BTCC.net says this:


Significantly, SEAT – using diesel engines for the first time – stayed on track so drivers Darren Turner and Jason Plato (eighth and ninth fastest overall) could practice their starts in their Leon TDis.

I don't quite understand what is being said here. Are they saying the SEATs stayed late, or if this is an error and they actually meant stayed "off track" to practice their starts?

VkmSpouge
17th March 2008, 21:18
I am still doubtful that we've seen everyone's true pace, especially the SEATs.

MBailey06
17th March 2008, 21:37
Andrew Jordan and Matt Allison showing strong pace once again, they could be podium contenders at times in the season. Also, even though he was 14th, Collard was nearer to the pace than I was expecting, so he may do quite well this season as well.

LiamM
17th March 2008, 21:46
I am still doubtful that we've seen everyone's true pace, especially the SEATs.

Same happened last year, SEAT were no where is pre-season testing, come first race they was up at the top of the time sheets. Dont want Mr Gow imposing more ballast on them cos they are so much quicker than everyone else in testing do they?

dwracing23
17th March 2008, 22:13
Comparing them to last years qualifying times:

1 3 I Colin TURKINGTON GBR BMW 320si 0:49.532 24
2 11 M Jason PLATO GBR SEAT Leon 0:49.548 26 0.016
3 12 M Darren TURNER GBR SEAT Leon 0:49.652 9 0.120
4 5 M Fabrizio GIOVANARDI ITA Vauxhall Vectra 0:49.687 22 0.155
5 7 M Tom CHILTON GBR Vauxhall Vectra 0:49.750 22 0.218
6 48 I Matt JACKSON GBR BMW 320si 0:49.762 26 0.230
7 33 I Tom ONSLOW-COLE GBR BMW 320si 0:49.783 29 0.251
8 77 I Mike JORDAN GBR Honda Integra 0:49.899 31 0.367
9 1 - Matt NEAL GBR Honda Civic 0:50.033 19 0.501
10 21 I Adam JONES GBR SEAT Toledo 0:50.040 22 0.508
11 23 I Matt ALLISON GBR SEAT Toledo Cupra 0:50.062 19 0.530
12 14 I Eoin MURRAY IRL Alfa Romeo 156 0:50.113 5 0.581
13 25 I Gareth HOWELL GBR SEAT Toledo Cupra 0:50.162 24 0.630
14 52 - Gordon SHEDDEN GBR Honda Civic 0:50.338 15 0.806
15 28 I Jason HUGHES GBR MG ZS 0:50.593 22 1.061
16 43 I Chris STOCKTON GBR Lexus IS200 0:50.630 23 1.098
17 56 I David PINKNEY GBR Alfa Romeo 156 0:50.641 22 1.109
18 15 I Martyn BELL GBR BMW 320i 0:50.788 25 1.256
19 90 I Erkut KIZILIRMAK TUR Vauxhall Astra Sport Hatch 0:50.874 29 1.342
20 82 I Fiona LEGGATE GBR MG ZS 0:51.165 27 1.633
21 69 I Simon BLANCKLEY GBR Honda Integra 0:51.165 27 1.633
22 55 I John GEORGE GBR Honda Integra 0:51.189 18 1.657
23 45 I Jim POCKLINGTON GBR BMW 320i 0:52.640 17 3.108
24 19 I Nick LEASON GBR Lexus IS200 0:53.034 22 3.502
25 17 I Rick KERRY GBR BMW 130D 0:53.586 21 4.054
26 59 I Richard MARSH GBR Alfa Romeo 0:57.505 1 7.973

tdb
17th March 2008, 22:13
Gio was so much faster than everyone else!


But Matt jackson was quickest, AGAIN!!

dwracing23
17th March 2008, 22:13
Headings:

POS NO CL DRIVER NAT CAR TIME LAPS GAP

dwracing23
17th March 2008, 22:15
That would have put Turkington 16th on the grid from last years time

tdb
17th March 2008, 22:22
And Adam Jones 18th and the alfas dead last.

SO your point is?

Test times and qualy times usualy differ greatly.

BDunnell
17th March 2008, 22:23
While I agree that there's only so much you can read into test times, that comparison of times shows a healthy formula. There's been a slight improvement of a few tenths here and there, but no enormous strides forward and no-one running away from the rest. It's obviously going to be a competitive year.

dwracing23
17th March 2008, 22:59
And Adam Jones 18th and the alfas dead last.

SO your point is?

Test times and qualy times usualy differ greatly.

I didnt have a point, mearly comparing and showing how much faster the cars are from last year. I posted them as some of the teams where using the test as a "qualy session" as reported by btcc.net

What is your point with your first sentance? You cant really compare a car that wasnt present at the test can you?

Its like having a healthy discussion with some one that isnt present, you cant defend yourself.

Les
18th March 2008, 06:21
just ask yourself a few questions... who had on new rubber? what ballast were they running? what dampers? - the list is endless.

but I did hear that Fab did see the barriers from a rather close perspective.

PDS
18th March 2008, 10:50
but I did hear that Fab did see the barriers from a rather close perspective.

Twice!

Really on the limit!

WSRfan82
18th March 2008, 12:23
i its just a test but Jackson imperest me...his time was 0.019 seconds faster than Gio's time last year waw thats some lap...

VX_Rules
18th March 2008, 16:56
Crash.net stated an error for the other day and Turkington was 3rd quickest in the end, with another time under the 49 second barrier. Thats 3 of them now.

tisme
19th March 2008, 00:33
just ask yourself a few questions... who had on new rubber? what ballast were they running?

I understand not everyone was carrying the correct weight!!!!

Times are a watse of time then, don't you think!

Lets see what happens at Brands for the first round!

Les
19th March 2008, 12:44
the times are all a PR exercise - as long as they actually did do some testing and some good out of it