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Chigley
13th January 2007, 22:38
:)

It's that time of the year again when the calendars start to fill up and the imagination runs riot at the thought of things to come.

It's also the time for marshals to start brushing away the off season cob webs and try to remember and brush up on the old, or learn new skills.

As requested in an old thread:
http://archive.motorsportforums.com/vb2/showthread.php?s=&threadid=125651&highlight=Marshals
we are desperately short of marshals and now is the time to make the decision that you would like to be a part of the spectacle and not just be at the spectacle.

What are marshals?
Someone who is interested in Motor sport and who wants to be involved in the sport without necessarily competing.

To quote part of the original thread:

I know a lot of you regular spectators do not want to do the travelling to all corners of the country that some of us die hards do; but how about just Marshalling at the Rockingham events. You don't have to join a club and will be given training to teach you the do's and don'ts of life track side and basic driver aid. There is a choice of working on the bank and out on the oval, or being in the pits. Attendance is entirely voluntary if you don't/can't do a weekend that's your choice just a quick courtesy call to let people know that you won't be available. Bonuses you get free tickets and passes, access to all areas of the track, enjoy the racing up close and personal, actively contribute to the health of the racing we love and best of all you part of the spectacle not just an observer.

In the next few weeks training days are taking place around the country if you wish to avail yourselves and place a reminder in your diaries.
28-Jan-07 Mallory Park BARC Training Day
28-Jan-07 Snetterton BRSCC Training Day
03-Feb-07 Brackley BMMC Training Day
04-Feb-07 Croft DDMC Training Day
10-Feb-07 Thruxton BARC Training Day Course/Incident
11-Feb-07 Thruxton BARC Training Day Specialist/Flag/Observer
24-Feb-07 Silverstone VSCC Training Day
18-Mar-07 Harewood Training Day
01-Apr-07 Castle Combe CCRC Training Day

To date we haven't been informed of a Rockingham training day but that should only be used to supplement the main training days. If you want to attend you can either turn up on the day at 9:00 or contact me and I'll make the arrangements.

Cheers
Ian

Sticker Rub
13th January 2007, 22:55
BRSCC are running a training day at Rockingham on 17th February.

Chigley
13th January 2007, 23:15
At the risk of getting my knuckles wrapped with a wooden spoon an interesting conversation about training days and what's included is going on at:
http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92540&page=2

Cheers
Ian
:)

Dave17
14th January 2007, 11:13
Another one Ian.....

18th-Feb-07 Donington BMMC training day.

I'll be at Mallory and Donington if anyone wants to tag along.

http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92540 is the start of the tread on Ten tenths

Al_Green
14th January 2007, 23:29
BRSCC are running a training day at Rockingham on 17th February.

The BMMC training days list I saw today had Rockingham training as weekend of 24/25 Feb (Can't remember which day, but I guess Sunday).

Al.

Sticker Rub
15th January 2007, 23:12
The BMMC training days list I saw today had Rockingham training as weekend of 24/25 Feb (Can't remember which day, but I guess Sunday).

Al.

February 17th came from Keith Jones. Perhaps 24/25th Feb is a separate BMMC event?

Sticker Rub
15th January 2007, 23:30
Volunteers in Motorsport (http://www.volunteersinmotorsport.co.uk/training.php) lists an MSA Rescue & Recovery session & a BRSCC Rescue session at Rockingham on 17th Feb.

Dave17
16th January 2007, 17:09
Likewise from the BRSCC newsletter....

"The Midland Centre is holding a training day for the Rescue Unit & Observers at Rockingham on the 17th February. Contact Tony Carwithen on 0121 601 7867 or email [email:33toihe3]tony.carwithen@blueyonderco.uk[/email:33toihe3] "

Not sure if its OVAL obs or normal obs...there is a difference dispite what people might think.

Also in the newsletter....

"Vicki Squirrell is leaving the sport in early February for a new career in the boxing promotions world"

deadsquirrel
16th January 2007, 20:28
Likewise from the BRSCC newsletter....

"The Midland Centre is holding a training day for the Rescue Unit & Observers at Rockingham on the 17th February. Contact Tony Carwithen on 0121 601 7867 or email [email:2orclj9w]tony.carwithen@blueyonderco.uk[/email:2orclj9w] "

Not sure if its OVAL obs or normal obs...there is a difference dispite what people might think.

Also in the newsletter....

"Vicki Squirrell is leaving the sport in early February for a new career in the boxing promotions world"
Dave - suggest you ring Tony to find out if you're interested in the observers' sessions.

Vicki is indeed moving on, and I for one thank her for her efforts, friendly waves from the pace car, and will miss her cheerful smile at Rockingham!

Sticker Rub
16th January 2007, 20:55
Update from Keith:

But should numbers warrant it we will try to provide some form of training/seminar for the oval fraternity. We are unable to use the circuit and will not be able to provide fire training as the circuit will not approve it.

However people will need to register to attend the day, without registration we will be unable to accommodate.

Al_Green
16th January 2007, 21:25
Ok, I stand corrected, but unfortunately can't make the 17th. Croft training day on the 4th will have to do for this year (and I need my Obs training signature to upgrade!)

Al.

Chigley
17th January 2007, 00:52
To clarify the BRSCC Rockingham situation I have received this from Keith:

Ian,

The BRSCC Midland Centre are holding an Observers & Flag Marshals Seminar (Not a Training Day) - this is by invitation only and nothing to do with the BRSCC Rockingham Centre.

There is a Rescue Training Day for BRSCC Units to which the Safety Team are attending.

Both of the above are to take place on Saturday 17th February at Rockingham.

We are unable to use the circuit or any part of the infield or equipment, however if you wish to attend I am sure that would not be a problem.

To what benefit it would serve and what you require I am unsure.

There will a central newsletter on the BRSCC website under the Rockingham Link, the 2007 availability form is also on this site.

If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me.

For your further information, the BRSCC now carry the permit for the SCSA Series.

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The fact that BRSCC now have the SCSA Series permit cuts all ties with BARC and gives BRSCC an unhindered hand in proceeding as they wish.

Cheers
Ian

Dave17
17th January 2007, 18:22
The fact that BRSCC now have the SCSA Series permit cuts all ties with BARC and gives BRSCC an unhindered hand in proceeding as they wish.



This is great news. Now the series can be run with one chief, although I don't think that BARC had much input last year.

PitMarshal
21st January 2007, 23:41
THis might sound like a daft question, but I haven't been keeping up to date on events recently. Who do we contact aboutr marshalling at the SCSA events? I went through the BRSCC website last year and never heard anything back.

Chigley
22nd January 2007, 00:48
http://www.brscc.co.uk/rockingham/rockingham2007.doc

Dave17
22nd January 2007, 20:14
So, if I read between the lines, there will be a stand alone group called "BRSCC Rockingham Centre" running the meetings at The Rock and I would imagine that the personnel will be selected from within all BRSCC regions and not just the Midland centre.

If my thinking is correct this shows very intelligent thinking on there behalf with a dedicated oval team running the meeting.

Dave17
22nd January 2007, 20:19
http://www.brscc.co.uk/rockingham/rockingham2007.doc

Also online at....

http://www.marshals.org.uk/Rockinghamform.htm

The same form but you save on postage!http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/symbolic/money.gif (http://www.thesmilies.com)

JovialJooles
22nd January 2007, 22:08
To clarify the BRSCC Rockingham situation I have received this from Keith:

Ian,

The BRSCC Midland Centre are holding an Observers & Flag Marshals Seminar (Not a Training Day) - this is by invitation only and nothing to do with the BRSCC Rockingham Centre.

There is a Rescue Training Day for BRSCC Units to which the Safety Team are attending.

Both of the above are to take place on Saturday 17th February at Rockingham.

We are unable to use the circuit or any part of the infield or equipment, however if you wish to attend I am sure that would not be a problem.

To what benefit it would serve and what you require I am unsure.

There will a central newsletter on the BRSCC website under the Rockingham Link, the 2007 availability form is also on this site.

If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me.

For your further information, the BRSCC now carry the permit for the SCSA Series.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

The fact that BRSCC now have the SCSA Series permit cuts all ties with BARC and gives BRSCC an unhindered hand in proceeding as they wish.

Cheers
Ian

Sorry I am being dense.

Is the Rescue training day open to all marshalls, or just the Safety Team and members of BRSCC Units?

Julian

Chigley
22nd January 2007, 23:10
I believe your thinking is correct. :)

It's just for current safety units/members although if you wish to have safety crew training I would advise attending. :)

I wonders if the injun's are going to have any crumbs fall off the table that they can nibble at. ;)

Cheers
Ian

deadsquirrel
23rd January 2007, 09:02
I believe your thinking is correct. :)

It's just for current safety units/members although if you wish to have safety crew training I would advise attending. :)

I wonders if the injun's are going to have any crumbs fall off the table that they can nibble at. ;)

Cheers
Ian
The training on the 17th is as described in previous posts above - Rescue and Observers; all BRSCC events. It is NOT 'Safety Crew' training - it is a RESCUE training and assessment day - and attendance is by invitation.

There is nothing 'sinister' or elitist about the day, and it is wrong to keep portraying it that way.

Chigley
23rd January 2007, 11:02
There is nothing 'sinister' or elitist about the day, and it is wrong to keep portraying it that way.

I hope I'm not portraying that way. :)
The "comment" is that the injun's training day that was proposed/declared as going to be organised, appears to be a non event and is a tad disappointing. ;)

Cheers
Ian

JovialJooles
23rd January 2007, 11:23
The training on the 17th is as described in previous posts above - Rescue and Observers; all BRSCC events. It is NOT 'Safety Crew' training - it is a RESCUE training and assessment day - and attendance is by invitation.

There is nothing 'sinister' or elitist about the day, and it is wrong to keep portraying it that way.

Interesting...

So, if I wanted to do some RESCUE training, I can't do it at Rockingham because it is an invitation only event...

Before anyone says I am, I'm not suggesting it is elitist; just clarifying that I can't do rescue training at Rockingham. Can I do it anywhere else, or is all rescue training invitation only?

Julian

Chigley
23rd January 2007, 12:31
Can I do it anywhere else, or is all rescue training invitation only?


Jooles,
If you can make it, Thruxton are doing a rescue training day. It's an annual event where the BARC rescue units do "Rescue Awareness Days" showing where everything is in the vans, how to prep rescue tools, you get to use the cutting tools inc "the Jaws of Life". the dates are 25/2/07 and 11/3/07. Speak to Sara at BARC 01264 882210.
http://www.barc.net/calendar/index.php

Cheers
Ian

JovialJooles
23rd January 2007, 13:31
Cheers Ian. :)

deadsquirrel
23rd January 2007, 18:37
Interesting...

So, if I wanted to do some RESCUE training, I can't do it at Rockingham because it is an invitation only event...

Before anyone says I am, I'm not suggesting it is elitist; just clarifying that I can't do rescue training at Rockingham. Can I do it anywhere else, or is all rescue training invitation only?

Julian
To become a Rescue 'trainee' you will have to convince an existing crewchief that your are suitable and have at least two years experience marshalling. You will then receive a 'rescue trainee' licence from the unit concerned (via MSA) and be invited to their training. Most training would be with this unit, but you may be able to help out on more units too.
If you (or any other marshal at the event) would like to come and say hello first thing on a Thunder Sunday weekend Sat or Sun, I'd be happy to show you the kit we carry and how it all works.
as Chigley says, you may also see some units running 'getting to know you' days and that would be a good way to start too. Rescue is not for everyone as it can expose you to the 'bloody' side of the sport.

Chigley
24th January 2007, 01:18
you may also see some units running 'getting to know you' days

Simon, these are a further step up the ladder than trying to break down the "us and them" barrier that existed for so long unfortunately. The bad days had people on the bank saying oh well rescue's here leave it them, and rescue would turn up a shoo people away saying "keep out of the way we'll handle it".

After the Goodwood accident it became blantantly obvious that the rescue guys, with four very seriously injured people (one was purple on scene), needed all the gofors they could get but were hampered because the guys on the bank didn't know where things were in the vans. Since then they have actively encouraged "bankites" to become familiar with the vans, know how to use lifting equipment, how to prep compressors and hydraulic motors, and out of interest to see the pitfalls and dangers of the cutting equipment by actually cutting up cars. Personally I think the actual exercise of extricating drivers (live guinea pigs) from cars using long and short boards, KED's and helmet removal was invaluable as those who have done the exercise can actually be of use at an incident.

Ramble over, but to all orange bankites it is an invaluable training exercise.

Me.
:)

ascarmarshal
24th January 2007, 17:25
As I have said in another thread, I don't know if I can work any SCSA this year for a number reasons the main one being emotional. I would like to try and get back as American Style Stock Car racing is my favourite form of the sport but I will probably find it hard going there and not seeing Mum in the Paddock trying to keep the 'hooligans' we call drivers under control in her own way. I hope to try one meeting this year depending on other commitments. In case I don't get back this season I wish all the SCSA marshalling and safety teams well and a good safe season with minimal wrecks. I also hope that Turn 1 in is in good hands

Dave17
24th January 2007, 18:19
I also hope that Turn 1 in is in good hands

Yes it is. I did it all last season.

Hope you manage to get to the Rock this year. How about trying a Saturday first to see how you make out?

Teletubby
26th January 2007, 11:33
Simon, these are a further step up the ladder than trying to break down the "us and them" barrier that existed for so long unfortunately. The bad days had people on the bank saying oh well rescue's here leave it them, and rescue would turn up a shoo people away saying "keep out of the way we'll handle it".

After the Goodwood accident it became blantantly obvious that the rescue guys, with four very seriously injured people (one was purple on scene), needed all the gofors they could get but were hampered because the guys on the bank didn't know where things were in the vans. Since then they have actively encouraged "bankites" to become familiar with the vans, know how to use lifting equipment, how to prep compressors and hydraulic motors, and out of interest to see the pitfalls and dangers of the cutting equipment by actually cutting up cars. Personally I think the actual exercise of extricating drivers (live guinea pigs) from cars using long and short boards, KED's and helmet removal was invaluable as those who have done the exercise can actually be of use at an incident.

Ramble over, but to all orange bankites it is an invaluable training exercise.

Me.
:)

Ian, not quite accurate but near enough!

It wasn't at Goodwood that we had any problem, it's the events where we may only have the minimum 3 crew where we need loads of help!

Jules, unfortunately the days Ian quoted are BARC Rescue Training, not the 'have a go' days that BARC have run for the past few years. Rescue training, by it's very nature, tends to be by invitation only although as Simon pointed out, contact a Rescue Unit and you should be able to get invited. It's not a question of being elitist, more a case that the training is very specific and, more importantly, very expensive compared on a per person basis with Marshals training.

Chigley
26th January 2007, 12:06
Greetings Martin and welcome to our humble abode. You travel far and wide with your surfing. ;)

Thanks for explaining the situation more accurately than my fumbling effort.

Apologises to anyone that I may have inconvenienced with duff gen.

Ian
:)

deadsquirrel
26th January 2007, 19:15
I hope I'm not portraying that way. :)
The "comment" is that the injun's training day that was proposed/declared as going to be organised, appears to be a non event and is a tad disappointing. ;)

Cheers
Ian

Marshal training season is underway now, and I hope all 'orange' types are signed up for somewhere over the coming weeks.

As for oval specific training, what training are you looking for?

Chigley
26th January 2007, 20:36
It would be nice to have a seesion similiar to that a couple of years ago that Mark Classneur fronted and Clive Wayland attended. For the "newbies" to actually be able to talk to "da management" and discuss the way things should proceed, what to look for, what is or isn't permissable. Remember Mark's demonstration of "baulking" or tailend charlie taking the leaders clean air away. He provided a valuable insight into the finer points of oval racing.

Such a session is important to cement the team together and not have a; those in front know what's going on, and those who aren't in the front, struggling to find out syndrome. It also lets those "in the outback" who may feel as though they have been planted in the back field and forgotten know who is running the shop and what he (and they) expect.

I'm rambling again, so I'll go back to sleep.

Cheers
Ian

Sticker Rub
26th January 2007, 20:57
Marshal training season is underway now, and I hope all 'orange' types are signed up for somewhere over the coming weeks.

As for oval specific training, what training are you looking for?

There were a few of us at Rockingham in our first season last year. Although training for "traditional" circuit marshalling is widely available, you know better than most that marshalling on the oval is very different. In my limited experience last season, I guess a lot of it is common sense but I also picked up conflicting views on what to report / not report, calling yellows (when & who). Using the landlines may seem simple but without being specifically trained, inexperienced users could leave lines open or even fail to open a line before reporting an incident.

We all take it for granted that we know how an oval race is run, what the flags mean, how incidents are handled & by who but for newcomers who may not have visited the Rock before, this could be quite alien. There will be little details that even regular visitors may not appreciate from the grandstand. What are the observers watching out for? What risks are they taking & what safety advice should they take on board? At my first meeting, I had to ask what the stripy sticks were for. I'd never noticed them before.

deadsquirrel
26th January 2007, 21:36
I don't want to turn this into a marshals' forum (there's another good place to do this ;) but maybe those who are interested in an oval crew 'seminar' before the start of the season would PM me with their weekend availability from now till end of March, if there's sufficient interest, I'll do my best to get something organised. venue would probably be RMS or somewhere in the area (PJ don't worry ;) )

These events will live or die by the enthusiasm and commitment of those involved at the coal face - whatever capacity that may be. Don't think your contribution is not recognised nor not appreciated.

Dave17
26th January 2007, 21:43
I quite agree Sticker Rub. What to report, when to report it and what not to report seems to vary depending on who you talk too. I think training is a wrong word to it, more like a seminar when practices could be discussed with the relevent parties ie corner obs, safety crew chiefs and oval clerks. I don't like using cliches but "so we are all sing from the same song sheet" could not say it any better!
A good time to hold such event would be either at pre season testing or the Saturday of the first meeting after the days procedings.

Dave17
26th January 2007, 21:52
I don't want to turn this into a marshals' forum (there's another good place to do this ;) .

I don't think its a marshals forum - more a oval marshals thread



but maybe those who are interested in an oval crew 'seminar' before the start of the season would PM me with their weekend availability from now till end of March, if there's sufficient interest.

You posted while I was putting my post together, funny how we both came up with the same idea! I do think that pre season/after practice would be easier (and cheaper) for all the relevent personel to attend rather than a dedicated day.

Sticker Rub
26th January 2007, 22:03
I don't want to turn this into a marshals' forum (there's another good place to do this ;) but maybe those who are interested in an oval crew 'seminar' before the start of the season would PM me with their weekend availability from now till end of March, if there's sufficient interest, I'll do my best to get something organised. venue would probably be RMS or somewhere in the area (PJ don't worry ;) )

It was reading the marshals forum on 10 Tenths that finally convinced me to join the tango brigade so let's hope this thread attracts new recruits.

A seminar's a great idea. PM sent.

Chigley
26th January 2007, 22:58
Ah guys!!!

As is usual at this time of the year, talks have been happening behind the scenes by those who don't frequent this forum or this marshals thread as it has become. Bob Bidmead (Racegypsy) has been trying to organise a training day for the "bankites" through Rockingham and the BRSCC and it appears to have stalled. What you are thinking of has already been discussed and hence the Rockingham training appears to be Safety Team-Rescue Crew/Circuit Observer based, except the Oval Observers aren't apparently included in the invitations. Even Bob didn't realise that anything was happening until I forwarded an email from Keith Jones that I had sent enquiring about training days. This tends to contradict what DP was talking about at the Oct meeting last year but I'm in contact with Bob and am liasiasing both ways as he is with me about anything he hears from BRSCC.

My email to Keith Jones:


From: Ian Chalmers
To: Keith Jones
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:59 PM
Subject: Rockingham events


Keith,

I'm picking information here and there about training days for observers, rescue crews, marshals? and such like that are being arranged at Rockingham. Can you detail what is or isn't going on please. Is there a central newsletter or email group in operation as I would like to keep abreast of what is going on.

Many thanks.
Ian Chalmers

Keith's reply:


Ian,

The BRSCC Midland Centre are holding an Observers & Flag Marshals Seminar (Not a Training Day) - this is by invitation only and nothing to do with the BRSCC Rockingham Centre.

There is a Rescue Training Day for BRSCC Units to which the Safety Team are attending.

Both of the above are to take place on Saturday 17th February at Rockingham.

We are unable to use the circuit or any part of the infield or equipment, however if you wish to attend I am sure that would not be a problem.

To what benefit it would serve and what you require I am unsure.

There will a central newsletter on the BRSCC website under the Rockingham Link, the 2007 availability form is also on this site.

If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me.

For your further information, the BRSCC now carry the permit for the SCSA Series.
Regards

Keith.


Bob's email to BRSCC to which I am waiting to see the reply:


I am somewhat confused about the Rockingham oval observers training day
on 17th Feb. When I saw the date in BRSCC News I believed this was the
training day we were promised by Drew and David Pierre we would be
getting for 2007. However it seems that Keith Jones has decided it is by
invitation only, (and I haven't received one yet) which seems strange as
we desperately need more trained oval observers.

As you are given as the contact for this training day, can you confirm
what is happening. Obviously as oval observing is completely different
from the normal track work some idea of the agenda would also be useful.

play safe
Bob Bidmead
the Race Gypsy


As you can see attempts are being made to facilitate our desires but what is/or isn't happening behind closed doors...........?

Regards
Ian
:)

Dave17
26th January 2007, 23:52
I too will be interested in the reply Ian.

On reading your quoted emails I read into it that the 17th Feb day is for GENERAL Flag and Obs training, not oval, more like what we would get at any circuit. Also on this day there will be a rescue training day along the same line. I think the piece in Keith's mail "...nothing to do with the BRSCC Rockingham Centre" confirms this as I believe the Rockingham Centre is a new outfit solely for the organization of meetings at Rockingham.

If I am wrong and this is a seminar for invited Flag and Observers in order to fast track them into oval observers thus snubbing all the hard work the marshals put in last year I can see less marshals attending this year.
It must not be forgotten that the majority of the few marshals at Rockingham last year were, like myself, true oval fanatics and loosing them could put racing in jeopardy if insufficient numbers are recruited to replace them.

deadsquirrel
26th January 2007, 23:59
I don't believe airing all this in a public forum is the way to proceed chaps, there seem to be axes to be ground. The subscribers of this thread might like to go to PM mode and discuss their wishes

I've offered to coordinate people and events to get a session organised, to promote and improve the oval event running, however/whenever that seminar/training comes to fruition and who attends.

I'm NOT going to get involved in cheap politicking.

Dave17
27th January 2007, 00:32
I've offered to coordinate people and events to get a session organised, to promote and improve the oval event running, however/whenever that seminar/training comes to fruition and who attends.


Let me know when the necessary BRSCC personal have agreed to it and will attend it and I shall be there.

Chigley
27th January 2007, 00:55
Simon and Dave, you both have got hold of the wrong end of the stick and there is no "cheap politicking".

Dave.
I believe you are reading to much into that email. The sessions are organised by BRSCC Midland Centre who have nothing to do with the Rockingham organisation. They are using Rockingham as a venue to conduct Observer/Flag training for themselves and not fast tracking anyone. Even if they were we are desperately short of Marshals/Flaggies/Observers and need all the extra numbers we can get. Again, I do not believe there is any "snub" intended, if you are correct, it will merely be to advance them to our level quicker so they can be of benefit.

Simon.
My correspondence is to show that at levels above us things are/are not happening and without it being officially organised you won't get the backing/funding to bring bodies and resources together. If you are thinking of a general discussion lets go down the pub but you won't get the likes of George, DP, Keith/Tony or Drew there.

This is a public forum and the marshals at Rockingham are part of that public. I believe you were referring to ten-tenths "as a good place to do this"; that is also a public forum. No difference, just more of a clique that, I personally, wouldn't desire to have join in on a discussion about Rockingham!

I don't see any axe being ground apart from a reluctance to discuss Rockingham/SCSA marshalling affairs/wishes on a Rockingham/SCSA forum.

Dave17
27th January 2007, 18:28
I could not have put it any better




Dave.
I believe you are reading to much into that email. .

My post was a best/worst scenario, but I take your point.

What I would like to know is who will be the personel at BRSCC Rockingham centre (i'm hoping DP and keith will be at the helm)

Al_Green
27th January 2007, 19:20
I think we'll find out on the 28th April, and can't imagine it'll be much different from last year (except for Ian Watson now BARC are out of the loop).

Otherwise, I'm in agreement with DS over this one, sort it out privately not over the open air and leave the politics alone.

Al.

Chigley
4th February 2007, 19:09
Guys, there is no oval training this year. This is part of a reply on the subject as a result of enquires made regarding Rockingham Oval training.


Keith has pointed out that the Observer seminar planned is in
> fact for general circuit marshals/observers and not Oval based. (I
> think probably some confusion has arisen due to us choosing Rockingham
> as a venue – something the Club was quite keen for us to pursue !)

Cheers
Ian

Chigley
2nd March 2007, 11:41
Have all marshals received the BRSCC Newsletter for March?

roys1
2nd March 2007, 19:56
Ian... where do you get this newsletter from?

Dave17
2nd March 2007, 20:14
Ian... where do you get this newsletter from?


Not Ian but...... http://www.brscc-new.co.uk/news.html

....I'm better looking as well!

Sticker Rub
2nd March 2007, 21:05
....I'm better looking as well!

You were until I clicked on the marshalling link :rotflmao:

Al_Green
2nd March 2007, 21:15
Ian... where do you get this newsletter from?

Can I ask that as well, got the March Racing News magazine but nothing like what you've posted on t'other forum. Its not hidden as spam anywhere either.

Confuzzed...
Al.

roys1
2nd March 2007, 21:20
[quote="Dave17"]Not Ian but...... http://www.brscc-new.co.uk/news.html

Yes I get that one but Ian refers to march edition that is not on there yet... also on another forum he refers to "extracts from the BRSCC Rockingham Newsletter for March" as a newsletter for Rockingham....

Chigley
2nd March 2007, 23:20
OK, I received it from Drew and Keith is supposed to forward to all on his contacts list, however if your not on that list..........

If all that wish to receive it can forward their email addresses I send it on, unless some brilliant wizz kid knows how to attach a PDF file to the forum (I tried photobucket but it won't play ball).

Ian

roys1
2nd March 2007, 23:30
PM sent to you Ian

Al_Green
3rd March 2007, 08:22
Cheers fella, I've emailed Drew to get on his distribution list for next time

Al
(ps use the @Virgin.net mail address! :) )

JovialJooles
3rd March 2007, 13:03
Have all marshals received the BRSCC Newsletter for March?

No. How do I get on Drew's list?

Cheers ears

Julian

Chigley
3rd March 2007, 18:01
Send me your email address and I'll forward the newsletter it has Drew's address on it,

Chigley
9th March 2007, 15:43
As I've adopted this as an orange thread to save starting another O/T thread.

On Saturday 17th March the Caterham Graduates have a closed track day at the Rock. As a thankyou to the marshals for the services that we provide during the year at all circuits and disciplines they are offering a limited number of rides to marshals with various drivers who have spare places in their passenger seat.

Please let me know if you are interested, it will be first come first served. as they don't expect that they could accommodate more than 10-12. I'll then pass the names on.

Cheers
Ian

Chigley
14th March 2007, 00:28
To those orange brethern who wish to partake here are the sign on times for the Saturday Caterham Graduate track day at the Rock.

08:00 Driver, passenger, spectator sign-on
08:30 Safety briefing
09:00 Driving begins
13:00 Lunch
14:00 Driving Resumes
17:00 End of driving

Ian
:)

JovialJooles
14th March 2007, 11:39
As I've adopted this as an orange thread to save starting another O/T thread.

I could rename the thread - Rockingham Marshals Thread...

Julian

Chigley
14th March 2007, 15:50
If that's more appropriate and no one has a issue with that, I'd call it a good idea.

deadsquirrel
14th March 2007, 19:16
If that's more appropriate and no one has a issue with that, I'd call it a good idea.
I think I'd like to see a general 'marshals' thread move to the 'other place'

Chigley
14th March 2007, 20:29
IMHO "the other place" is getting clogged up with so much dross and inbred back slapping it's lost its focus completely and no longer serves the useful purpose of its former "good" days. Posting on there immediately brings either degradement if you are not a "name" or it is carried off thread so fast that the original thread is corrupted. I post rarely on there and then its either in defence of Rockingham or trying to support Rockingham. Personally, for matters solely affecting Rockingham marshals I would prefer to discuss it on this forum.

Ian

JovialJooles
14th March 2007, 21:52
I tend to agree with Ian.

As this is an SCSA Forum and most of the Marshal stuff is SCSA related, I have no problem with the thread being here.

Julian

Dave17
15th March 2007, 18:03
Likewise.

Marshalling at Rockingham is specialised and so deserves to remain here as opposed to the other place which is general and at times turns its collective nose up at oval racing!

turn 4 mad
15th March 2007, 23:44
i know its slightly of topic, but isnt it about time that they have a parade lap of all the marshalls during the lunch break of one of the scsa meetings for the unsung heroes, and before anyone says it extend the lunch break 15 mins to accomodate it, after all if anyone deserves a perade its these guys. keep up the good work.

Jordygirl
16th March 2007, 00:56
I have to thank you for your comments and suggestion. However, there is a slight problem in that we marshals don't usually have the time to enjoy a lunch break. We spend that time being rushed from the in field to the Oval in the minibus (driven by Dave17) and usually arrive on post just as Chigley sets the cars/pickups off from the start. Recognition would be nice, but we all do it coz we love motorsport. :wave:

Dave17
16th March 2007, 17:23
The safety/rescue marshals did a bit of a show on the startline at the final meeting but the rest of the orange were'nt invited.....

The commentators usually give a thank you over the PA and add the "you too could be a marshal" advert.

Like Jordygirl says we all do it coz we love motorsport (oval in particular). We also get in for nowt and get closer to the action.

PapaJuliet
16th March 2007, 19:41
The safety/rescue marshals did a bit of a show on the startline at the final meeting but the rest of the orange were'nt invited.....


I don't think it was a case of "weren't invited" more a case of "organised within 5 seconds"... "Do you want to do a parade? Get back on the trucks and go now!"

PJ

Sticker Rub
16th March 2007, 19:55
We do a parade every meeting. Ok, so it's at 60MPH round the perimeter road with Dave hanging on to the wheel of the minibus & the rest of us trying not to fall out the door.

JovialJooles
16th March 2007, 22:18
We do a parade every meeting. Ok, so it's at 60MPH round the perimeter road with Dave hanging on to the wheel of the minibus & the rest of us trying not to fall out the door.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :bonce:

Chigley
9th July 2007, 18:03
Do we have ten participants to make up a Team Orange for the BBQ?

To date; Me, Linda, Chris (Jordygirl BH), ............. :)

Dave17
9th July 2007, 18:55
Add me! I'm staying over.

Al_Green
9th July 2007, 22:32
Unlikely I'm afraid :(

racing59
9th July 2007, 22:44
Don't forget your tenner...

Or do I send Laura around with her hot pot of wax????? ;)

On a serious note, thanks to all the ladies and gentlemen in orange (and green) for their support and pledges to the Air Ambulance luxurious leg waxing at the last meeting.

We're trying to get all the pennies in before the 20th so we can announce the grand total on Sunday the 22nd.

And to date, the collected total, together with the outstanding pledges brings it to pennies under £580.

All for some little hairy legs!!!!!!

Thanks again, and again, and again, .......

Rob.

Sticker Rub
9th July 2007, 22:49
Do we have ten participants to make up a Team Orange for the BBQ?

To date; Me, Linda, Chris (Jordygirl BH), ............. :)

I'm in

JovialJooles
9th July 2007, 23:05
Do we have ten participants to make up a Team Orange for the BBQ?

To date; Me, Linda, Chris (Jordygirl BH), ............. :)

Unfortunately, I can only make the Saturday...

Boo Hoo! :bigcry: :bigcry:

Chigley
9th July 2007, 23:29
Unlikely I'm afraid :(

Al, are you not available for the weekend? :confused:

EarWig
10th July 2007, 01:43
Do we have ten participants to make up a Team Orange for the BBQ?

What day is the BBQ?

I am not an official orange person but I could dye a pair of the wifes draws if that will get me in? :)
I could also supply a dish of large prawns in Garlic - hmmmmmmmmmmmm!

Ray

PitMarshal
10th July 2007, 14:14
I shall most likely be about if you're really desparate to make up the numbers.

Chigley
10th July 2007, 15:33
I shall most likely be about if you're really desparate to make up the numbers.

We're not desperate ;) just wondering if there were 10 marshals and/or partners that would like to attend the PuT Party. :) There is a financial incentative in that the tickets are 40p cheaper each for a team of 10. Not that 40p will bankrupt anyone, it would have been nice to say we have a team of ten.

Ian

wends
10th July 2007, 19:46
Hello ian when and where is this party, were interested.....

Chigley
10th July 2007, 22:54
Hi Wendy, the answer is on this thread entered yesterday. and the thread I started called Who drives a PuT :)

Keep up at the back ;)

PapaJuliet
11th July 2007, 21:42
Hi Wendy, the answer is on this thread entered yesterday. and the thread I started called Who drives a PuT :)

Keep up at the back ;)

To be fair, Chigley, your original comment....


Do we have ten participants to make up a Team Orange for the BBQ?



was not entirely transparent if you didn't know anything about "the" bbq already.

PJ

Chigley
15th July 2007, 20:17
Well guys I think its every man /woman for themselves as we don't appear to be able to make a team. See you there.

wends
16th July 2007, 17:54
You wanted 10 particepants, i guess us 2 arnt good enough then, didnt manage to read the other threads......

Dave17
16th July 2007, 19:04
You wanted 10 particepants, i guess us 2 arnt good enough then, didnt manage to read the other threads......

A bit harsh! With "you 2" included, my maths makes it 7 and like Chigley says-not enough......

Chigley
16th July 2007, 19:06
You wanted 10 particepants, i guess us 2 arnt good enough then, didnt manage to read the other threads......

??? :confused:

I only counted a maximum of nine and that included you and Tony ???

:confused:

wends
16th July 2007, 22:23
Sorry people, we only wanted a date, just trawled through and found it now. Been away every weekend up north marshalling.

Al_Green
17th July 2007, 19:47
Just to confirm, I'll not be there this weekend - work commitments come first when there's bills to pay!

Also, I've cancelled for September as I'll be at Silverstone with the LMES. Personal choice that one, but with little BRSCC involvement I'll go somewhere where I'll be of more use (and no, I can't justify doing the run from one to circuit to the other a few times over the weekend).

Still be there in August, and at the F3/GTs though.

Al.

deadsquirrel
17th July 2007, 20:13
Just to confirm, I'll not be there this weekend - work commitments come first when there's bills to pay!

Also, I've cancelled for September as I'll be at Silverstone with the LMES. Personal choice that one, but with little BRSCC involvement I'll go somewhere where I'll be of more use (and no, I can't justify doing the run from one to circuit to the other a few times over the weekend).

Still be there in August, and at the F3/GTs though.

Al.

See you in August - car permitting ;)

Chigley
17th July 2007, 22:50
Gulp, thanks Al :)

PitMarshal
20th July 2007, 08:28
Does anyone know what state the camping area is in at the moment? It wasn't great last meeting, and todays weather forecast (up to 4 inches of rain across the Midlands!) doesn't exactly fill me with hope...

deadsquirrel
20th July 2007, 10:54
Does anyone know what state the camping area is in at the moment? It wasn't great last meeting, and todays weather forecast (up to 4 inches of rain across the Midlands!) doesn't exactly fill me with hope...
It's probably not going to be good (although I don't know that for certain), so I'd have a reserve plan if I were you.

JovialJooles
20th July 2007, 12:23
It's probably not going to be good (although I don't know that for certain), so I'd have a reserve plan if I were you.

Yep, like bring a dinghy! :D

wends
24th July 2007, 01:02
After getting in late friday to find no tickets ect...for the weekend.
We decided to go else where a bit closer to home, (we did volunteer at the beginning of the year thru BRSCC... but nothing turned up...2nd year this has happened)
Any way been in touch with club to try and get this sorted for next event.....
Hopefully will be up for next round....
we did book all rounds from july 21st........???? hope we havnt let anyone down.

deadsquirrel
24th July 2007, 09:29
After getting in late friday to find no tickets ect...for the weekend.

Do not worry about tickets - park in the outer paddock, and catch the marshals minibus from next to the security man, to the inner paddock for sign-on.
PM me your address etc and I'll make sure Keith Jones gets you on his list for the next event on!

Dave17
24th July 2007, 17:07
After getting in late friday to find no tickets ect...for the weekend.
We decided to go else where a bit closer to home, (we did volunteer at the beginning of the year thru BRSCC... but nothing turned up...2nd year this has happened)
Any way been in touch with club to try and get this sorted for next event.....
Hopefully will be up for next round....
we did book all rounds from july 21st........???? hope we havnt let anyone down.

I would have thought you would have been at Mallory.....

wends
24th July 2007, 18:28
I would have thought you would have been at Mallory.....

The trouble is when your let down a few decisions have to be made...Tony was hopeing for tickets so his daughter and boyfriend could come to the rock...thay live in herefordshire and friday as everyone can see on the news was a bit wet up there.....a canoe would have done better most roads were flooded to say the least.
Any way thay didnt make it.....
So yes dave, we had a few other options mallory, and also thruxton only 10 mins away.


But with the very sad death of Ollie bridewell that afternoon (bsb) we both were really gutted to say the least......we really couldnt be bothered to go anywhere or do anything.....