Champ Car Owner (DW) Expects Series To End

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Champ Car Owner Expects Series to End
By MICHAEL MAROT – 3 hours ago

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Derrick Walker isn't buying Champ Car's company line.

He's parked his car, withdrawn from testing and focused his attention on running in the rival Indy Racing League this year even though Champ Car officials say they will race this season.

Walker, a Champ Car owner who has also competed in the IRL, told The Associated Press on Tuesday he believes Champ Car is finished.

"It has all the makings of the end of Champ Car," he said in a telephone interview. "How it's going to be done, I don't know. But I think Champ Car is going to shut down."

Walker was so concerned about the series' future that he instructed the team to return to Indianapolis without ever testing his car in Sebring, Fla., earlier this month.

The comments come amid rampant speculation about what the future may hold for Champ Car, one of America's top two open-wheel series.

Over the past week, there has been talk of the rival series nearing agreement on unification. IRL founder Tony George, who started his series in 1996, returned Tuesday from a trip to Japan that many believe is a precursor to any possible merger.

"Discussions are ongoing, but the reality is that it's not helped by all these leaks and all these stories," said Kevin Kalkhoven, co-owner of the Champ Car series.

George has offered to make free Dallara chassis and Honda engines, along with the $1.2 million in incentives it is paying each of its own teams to race in the IndyCar Series in 2008, available to Champ Car teams that join his league.

Whether that will happen is still unclear.

"Our executive team got back from Japan earlier today and we continue to work and see what we can accomplish here in the immediate future," league spokesman John Griffin said Tuesday night.

The sticking point has been the head-to-head scheduling of the Long Beach race, Champ Car's season opener April 20, and the IRL's April 19 event at the Honda-owned Motegi track in Japan. Long Beach officials have said they cannot change their date because of contracts with the city's convention center, around which the street circuit is set up.

It wasn't immediately clear whether George had received permission from track officials to move the Japan race.

Another possible wrinkle emerged Tuesday when published reports said Champ Car may file for bankruptcy within days, something league executive vice president David Higdon discounted.

"We've been hearing those rumors since Friday, and as we've continued to say our doors are open and people are working," Higdon said. "We're proceeding with our plans and will keep operating as Champ Car."

Champ Car's predecessor, CART, also filed for bankruptcy before the three-man team of Kalkhoven, Paul Gentilozzi and Gerald Forsythe bought the defunct series' assets in 2004 and re-established it as Champ Car.

Walker, however, acknowledged he has had some sponsors default on payments from last season and that he had to contact the league office to get last year's prize money.

"That's news to me," Kalkhoven said.

But Walker said he's not alone.

"The only thing I know for sure is that about a month ago there were several teams that had never been paid prize money," he said. "Whether that was resolved, I don't know."

Plus, Walker said he's heard little from league officials and more about the departures of employees.

The combination was enough to make Walker reassess his team's plans, and refocus the team's efforts on racing in the IRL this season.

"We are working toward that 100 percent until someone can show me that Champ Car is really going," Walker said. "That's part of my frustration. My truck was on its way to the Sebring test and I turned it around and brought it back because we had not had anyone in Champ Car tell me what was going on. So we put it all in the corner, left it alone and put our energy in IRL 101."

A merger this close to the IRL's season-opener, March 29 in Homestead, Fla., may not be the saving grace many owners hope for, either.

Walker said that with less than two months to prepare, Champ Car teams would have to learn quickly about IRL cars and that some teams could suffer financial losses, too.

"They've been running these cars for five years and it costs about $1.3 million to show up with a driver, a spare car and show up for the races, so that's money we've got to find," Walker said. "I guess I'm praying there will be a merger, but sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for."

Whatever the potential stumbling blocks, Kalkhoven insists there is one certainty.

"There will still be racing this year," he said.

More mess is coming.

[Chaparral66]

More mess is coming.

I was just saying in a message to someone that up until 2 years ago, I thought history would look on Tony George very harshly. I don't think that's the case anymore. The Amigos got us to this point, now history will be harsh on them. They really let us down.

[OWFan19]

I want to know what the F is GF thinking? I know he hates Tony, but this is too much. Walker would be smart to get out, and I hope others follow his suit. Its time this b.s. comes to an end.

[Chaparral66]

Yeah, but it needs to be done better than ramming it down our collective throats...

[F1boat]

Well, if GF is so narrow-minded, he may have to race alone in his series.

[MAX_THRUST]

I'd like to wish DW good luck in the IRL, back when Fernandez and Rahal jumped ship I felt gutted. With DW I fully understand. Every team in CCWS is important and any one of those leaving will have a massive effect on the series......how can this carry on.

[BobGarage]

The team owners can end the war now.

IF PKV, NHL and Walker all leave this series is dead anyway. With conquest also having money this year they would likely follow suit.

That many teams/cars leaving would kill the series finally and we can get back to racing.

Lets hope the team owners take the bull by the horn and do the job themselves.

[MAX_THRUST]

Bob your spot on,

It does seem to me that CCWS has done nothing to reassure these teams in recent weeks, and they all have spoken openly about jumping ship,

I know when I would go, and I know if I was a team owner I'd be gone by now, making sure all my staff have got jobs in two months time by racing in the IRL.

I don't care who theythink won the war, no one did, but us fans just might.

[fan-veteran]

In my oppinion there is not any problem for TG to supply additional 10-15 cars. Because these 10-15 cars surely exist already because of 33 grid figure for Indy500 :) . Considering car change for 2009 these additional cars came pratically free. The TG expenditures for CCWS absorption are tiny. That menas that 3amigos were checkmated :) .

[FlatChatRacer]

I think BobGarage has hit the nail on the head with this topic. The current Chamo Car teams have all the power.

The split will be unofficially over, once the teams refuse to participate.

I would be amazed if the buyout rumour is true. Furthermore, if as alleged, Forsythe and Pettit become the new owners, how on earth could they justify running a series with cars that belong to just the series owners?

Even if they managed to get a few Atlantic teams to graduate and then supported them financially: what would the point be?

It doesn't matter what anyone else does, but once NHL, PKV and Walker leave the series, it is over.

[gofastandwynn]

The team owners can end the war now.

IF PKV, NHL and Walker all leave this series is dead anyway. With conquest also having money this year they would likely follow suit.

That many teams/cars leaving would kill the series finally and we can get back to racing.

Lets hope the team owners take the bull by the horn and do the job themselves.

Just to throw this out there, but TSO is reporting that in addition to PKV, NHL and Walker, Minardi USA is also planning to jump ship but did stress that things are changing minute by minute

[sanguin]

Here you go-

http://www.walkerracing.com/media/display.php?id=412&lang=en

[Chaparral66]

Nice to have you back, Sanguin. Now, what do you think of the events of recent days?

[sanguin]

Nice to have you back, Sanguin. Now, what do you think of the events of recent days?

Thanks Chaparral66. I'm for merger as much as anyone, we need to have one OW series. But this is not the way to do it. We must have a shared series where we have the best of both entities and the best that can be offered to the fans. We cannot drop events and hope they come back later, we can't have cars and engines nobody wants.We can't have one person who owns a track and a race be the sole decision maker without checks and balances. This merging has to be mutual and done over time to get the pieces in place properly and to meld the 2 series together seamlessly.There are so many components that need consideration, like the feeder series. Do it slow and do it right. This shoving together and ripping apart is just creating chaos, anger and frustration and does nothing to help OW become successful in the future.

IMO, of course.

As for now, CC is still forging ahead and I'm still looking forward to attending some good races.

[Chaparral66]

Thanks Chaparral66. I'm for merger as much as anyone, we need to have one OW series. But this is not the way to do it. We must have a shared series where we have the best of both entities and the best that can be offered to the fans. We cannot drop events and hope they come back later, we can't have cars and engines nobody wants.We can't have one person who owns a track and a race be the sole decision maker without checks and balances. This merging has to be mutual and done over time to get the pieces in place properly and to meld the 2 series together seamlessly.There are so many components that need consideration, like the feeder series. Do it slow and do it right. This shoving together and ripping apart is just creating chaos, anger and frustration and does nothing to help OW become successful in the future.

IMO, of course.

As for now, CC is still forging ahead and I'm still looking forward to attending some good races.

OK, I hope you might concede that it's not clear at all what CC is doing, due to a lack of reliable information. That said, this is one of the best posts you have ever made, and right on the money.

[gofastandwynn]

We can't have one person who owns a track and a race be the sole decision maker without checks and balances.

Yea, that has never worked in the past... (http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/headlines/cup/06/07/bfrancejr.nascar.impact/index.html)

[indycool]

Naw, NASCAR and F1 are terrible with France and Bernie in charge.

[OWFan19]

Thanks Chaparral66. I'm for merger as much as anyone, we need to have one OW series. But this is not the way to do it. We must have a shared series where we have the best of both entities and the best that can be offered to the fans. We cannot drop events and hope they come back later, we can't have cars and engines nobody wants.We can't have one person who owns a track and a race be the sole decision maker without checks and balances. This merging has to be mutual and done over time to get the pieces in place properly and to meld the 2 series together seamlessly.There are so many components that need consideration, like the feeder series. Do it slow and do it right. This shoving together and ripping apart is just creating chaos, anger and frustration and does nothing to help OW become successful in the future.

IMO, of course.

As for now, CC is still forging ahead and I'm still looking forward to attending some good races.

This was probably one of your best posts. :up:

[heelntoe]

Thanks Chaparral66. I'm for merger as much as anyone, we need to have one OW series. But this is not the way to do it. We must have a shared series where we have the best of both entities and the best that can be offered to the fans. We cannot drop events and hope they come back later, we can't have cars and engines nobody wants.We can't have one person who owns a track and a race be the sole decision maker without checks and balances. This merging has to be mutual and done over time to get the pieces in place properly and to meld the 2 series together seamlessly.There are so many components that need consideration, like the feeder series. Do it slow and do it right. This shoving together and ripping apart is just creating chaos, anger and frustration and does nothing to help OW become successful in the future.

IMO, of course.

As for now, CC is still forging ahead and I'm still looking forward to attending some good races.

While I appreciate the fact that you've returned as you said you would when proved wrong, this post stresses exactly why you are wrong so often. The France Patriarch of the moment and Bernie have proved conclusively that a single owner/benevolent dictator IS THE ONLY WAY A RACING SERIES SUCCEEDS. It's so obvious, yet so oblivious to you...really very sad, IMO.

[Chaparral66]

Naw, NASCAR and F1 are terrible with France and Bernie in charge.

OK, I realize what you guys are saying, I just don't think the parallel works here with Tony George. I do not believe that TG is nearly of the same level of management excellence that served both Bill France SR. or Jr. very well. Bernie sheperds a much different animal in Formula 1 that TG does in the IRL. Big Bill France Sr. could be a very tough manager, but he also had cared about all the other industries that made their living off NASCAR, and he cared about the fans as did Bill France Jr. I have not seen that level of skill in TG.

But YA KNOW, hey, I could be wrong. Maybe once TG has control, he might become more benevolent, as oppose to being hellbent to destroy CC. We really won't know until it happens, so like I've been saying, I will try to keep an open mind.

[indycool]

We haven't seen TG in that position yet. We haven't seen anybody in that position since Tony Hulman. ADD TO ABOVE: Even look at what Ted Johnson did with the World of Outlaws from a small office in Texas or Wally Parks with the NHRA.

[sanguin]

While I appreciate the fact that you've returned as you said you would when proved wrong, this post stresses exactly why you are wrong so often. The France Patriarch of the moment and Bernie have proved conclusively that a single owner/benevolent dictator IS THE ONLY WAY A RACING SERIES SUCCEEDS. It's so obvious, yet so oblivious to you...really very sad, IMO.

I haven't been proved wrong about anything. There is no deal or merger yet and no one knows how its going to happen, if it does at all.

On the other hand ,you've been proven wrong on this forum many times.

As I said ,if the deal goes through with TG in charge, I will not remain a fan to watch OW fail.I will move on. I certainly will not spend 5 years of my life holding a grudge or berating fans because of some perceived personal wrongdoing.That is very ,very sad.

[sanguin]

OK, I realize what you guys are saying, I just don't think the parallel works here with Tony George. I do not believe that TG is nearly of the same level of management excellence that served both Bill France SR. or Jr. very well. Bernie sheperds a much different animal in Formula 1 that TG does in the IRL. Big Bill France Sr. could be a very tough manager, but he also had cared about all the other industries that made their living off NASCAR, and he cared about the fans as did Bill France Jr. I have not seen that level of skill in TG.


I agree, We've seen his skills and the results. Not qualified and his family business will always be a factor.

[indycool]

Once in awhile, sanguin, you might add an IMO to your statements.

[OWFan19]

Once in awhile, sanguin, you might add an IMO to your statements.

I think he has added me to his ignore list. 99% of what he spews is rethoric.

[SoCalPVguy]

I haven't been proved wrong about anything. There is no deal or merger yet and no one knows how its going to happen, if it does at all.


I liked you better when you were gone.

[Jag_Warrior]

I liked you better when you were gone.

Isn't that ironic? I liked you better when I was gone. :)

[Cart750hp]

I liked you better when you were gone.

SoCal, I put a bit of blame for that thread "where's sanguin?". Who thought of that anyway? Now he's back, doing his daily routine.

[heelntoe]

I haven't been proved wrong about anything. There is no deal or merger yet and no one knows how its going to happen, if it does at all.

On the other hand ,you've been proven wrong on this forum many times.

As I said ,if the deal goes through with TG in charge, I will not remain a fan to watch OW fail.I will move on. I certainly will not spend 5 years of my life holding a grudge or berating fans because of some perceived personal wrongdoing.That is very ,very sad.

Dude, I don't have time to dig up all of your incorrect statements or opinions on my Sunday as that would definitely take a whole lot of time, but why don't we discuss CDW, who you claimed were going nowhere as a sponsor...or racetracks that would never hold a CC race as only motorcycles work...or...you know, never mind...this is a waste of energy as my coffee table book of all the Sanguin'isms will cover it. As far as my being wrong on this forum "many" times, I think the one time you like to refer to is the day I reported a comment made to me by a colleague at IMG about the Toronto Sponsor being gone a year late...now granted, I was wrong that day and admitted as such, you never seem to own up to your shortcomings when it comes to predictions and knowledge of CCWS as a business. So, for now, I will only say that it will be a pleasure when this coming week is over and I can join the rest of the more balanced minds in accepting that the demise of CCWS was inevitable and thanks entirely to a set of owners that put their egos and personal interests before the business or the fans...IMO, of course!

[SoCalPVguy]

SoCal, I put a bit of blame for that thread "where's sanguin?".

I though he was with Waldo.


Now he's back, doing his daily routine.

Not only that, he's got a second posting name too, 'Clydecart' judging by the word for word duplication of content.