WRC Rally Argentina 2012

**KKS** · 29th Apr 12, 20:54

Originally Posted by T.Maanteiden kuningas

What girls are doing valves etc. if alternator belt is broken? Girls can fix belt but are you using valves and gaskets?!

When belt are broke with working engine valves have a very hot "greetings" with pistons, isn't?
If I don't know exactly how Fiesta's WRC engine build and after alternator belt are broke - car still can go with a battery power, even 4km.. isn't?

**jbmarcus21** · 29th Apr 12, 21:00

Standings WRC 2012 [Drivers, Manufacturers, Scratchs et Power Stage] Classements Saison Wrc 2012

**T.Maanteiden kuningas** · 29th Apr 12, 21:02

Only rookies kill engines driving without waterpump, driver can notice when belt is gone. You can drive more than 4km with battery power.

**oyunbozan** · 29th Apr 12, 21:02

keep vanging master yoda. i gotta write the news, adios.

**SlowSon** · 29th Apr 12, 21:04

Originally Posted by jbmarcus21

Standings WRC 2012 [Drivers, Manufacturers, Scratchs et Power Stage] Classements Saison Wrc 2012

You posted a link not-shortened for money?

**tmx** · 29th Apr 12, 21:07

Originally Posted by oyunbozan

sordo will not come back to ford ever after this bull****. alternator belt broke down in normal stage before last stage, ah yea.. it looks to be a late desicion to retire him to me. manufacturers title is totaly imposible because citroen has the most consistent drivers of today.. =

Erroneous.

**dimviii** · 29th Apr 12, 21:09

Originally Posted by KKS

When belt are broke with working engine valves have a very hot "greetings" with pistons, isn't?
If I don't know exactly how Fiesta's WRC engine build and after alternator belt are broke - car still can go with a battery power, even 4km.. isn't?

KKS the alternator belt is different from engine belt which cause the catastrophe when snapped.But yes it is possible to run few km with broken alternator belt,depents from the battery.

**EightGear** · 29th Apr 12, 21:09

I'm waiting for 2012 to start already. Hopefully Prodrive will be back 100% and things will start to look better again.

**dimviii** · 29th Apr 12, 21:10

Originally Posted by T.Maanteiden kuningas

Only rookies kill engines driving without waterpump, driver can notice when belt is gone. You can drive more than 4km with battery power.

you have confused too alternator belt with engine belt.

**Mirek** · 29th Apr 12, 21:11

When I complained about superally rulles I didn't think what could happen to Sordo. I'm really sorry he is the best proof for this words. Today he deserved points much more than Solberg, Neuville or Novikov...

**bluuford** · 29th Apr 12, 21:13

Originally Posted by oyunbozan

based on for example in my country, which is about 75.000.000 people live in, only 300 to 500 people is truely intrested in rally but it was much more at 80's and 90's but it is tens of thousands of people interested in f1, even drag races are full of spectators. when i go spectating a national rally i see very few people.

start of the off topic:
I thought that there are nearly 80 million people in Turkey? And your number between 300 and 500 does not look realistic. When the rally is popular in national level then people are more interested in WRC as well. I can see that national rally Championship is in rise in Turkey in last couple of years and therefore I expect WRC to grow in next couple of years as well. So, keep up your good work and positive mind, we enthusiasts are the ones who can make the rally more popular in our countries
End of the off topic

**Langdale Forest** · 29th Apr 12, 21:16

Originally Posted by Gherid_lacksGPS

Really, it's crazy....

why, why, why, Delilah?

**dimviii** · 29th Apr 12, 21:24

Congrats to Loeb for his 70th win.Congrats to Mikko for being professional.
like a lot Mikkelsens pace against the benchmark Ogier.I d like to see them at all remaining rallies for 2012.Hope vw have seen the obvious,and dont spoiled with made in germany drivers.
About Ford /Petter what can i say?....Same ****, different day unfortunately,for all of us and the sport we love.
Sordo a bit of dissapointment,but was complaining about his notes,tyre choice, and setup,so can t be sure.From his interviews i have a feeling that while he knew the right tyre choice, Ford had an opposite opinion.
Ostberg,Novikov,Nasser not so good,no progress at all.
Neuville mixed impressions.....speed sometimes is there,but he is all over the place causing problems.Clearly visible at almost all videos i ve seen.Ok 1st year so we have to be patience.
Roll on Greece! can t wait!

**skarderud** · 29th Apr 12, 21:30

@østberg, he was first time here, said before the start that he going to take it easy and not do any mistakes. I think he did it quite ok!

**Barreis** · 29th Apr 12, 21:31

Originally Posted by dimviii

Congrats to Loeb for his 70th win.Congrats to Mikko for being professional.
like a lot Mikkelsens pace against the benchmark Ogier.I d like to see them at all remaining rallies for 2012.Hope vw have seen the obvious,and dont spoiled with made in germany drivers.
About Ford /Petter what can i say?....Same ****, different day unfortunately,for all of us and the sport we love.
Sordo a bit of dissapointment,but was complaining about his notes,tyre choice, and setup,so can t be sure.From his interviews i have a feeling that while he knew the right tyre choice, Ford had an opposite opinion.
Ostberg,Novikov,Nasser not so good,no progress at all.
Neuville mixed impressions.....speed sometimes is there,but he is all over the place causing problems.Clearly visible at almost all videos i ve seen.Ok 1st year so we have to be patience.
Roll on Greece! can t wait!

Waiting for Solberg's win in Greece.

**skarderud** · 29th Apr 12, 21:31

Ford/Petter is a different story, he maybe take to big risks. But its also weird how easy the Fords losts its wheels....

**bluuford** · 29th Apr 12, 21:35

Originally Posted by Mirek

When I cmplained about superally rulles I didn't think what could happen to Sordo. I'm really sorry he is the best proof for this words. Today he deserved points much more than Solberg, Neuville or Novikov...

Yes indeed. They should delete superally and increase the time limit to finish the stage a little. Then there is more motivation to fix the cars and more story for the press. Another example is comparison between Tänak and Novikov. Novikov lost the wheel at the beginning of the stage, Tänak broke the steering, fixed it in around 18 minutes and managed to continue. He was in trouble in next stage as well and finally managed to get going again but was OTL. Novikov and Neuville meanwhile sat on the side of the road and collected 5 minutes for each stage.. final results.. Neuville lost around 11 minutes, Novikov around 21 and Tänak around 37 minutes. Sordos situation is even worse.. So, what I want to say is the fact that many problems can be fixed in stage but it is easier and less time consuming to use superally.

**bluuford** · 29th Apr 12, 21:37

Originally Posted by skarderud

@østberg, he was first time here, said before the start that he going to take it easy and not do any mistakes. I think he did it quite ok!

Ostberg was there in 2010 as well

**dimviii** · 29th Apr 12, 21:49

Mikkelsen was first time either,and was fighting with Ogier inside the road and faultless for 500km.

**Rallyper** · 29th Apr 12, 21:52

I´ll wait for Ogier and Mikkelsen fight in real WRC-cars next year. That will be the day.

BTW girls with nylon stockings could be useful - needing a fan belt.)