WRC Rally Argentina 2012

**rallye-vid** · 29th Apr 12, 14:35

Mikko will lose some time at the end of the rally

**Langdale Forest** · 29th Apr 12, 14:38

Prehaps Citroen should let him win because of what happend in Portugal?

**ZequeArgentina** · 29th Apr 12, 14:39

Both Fuchs and Ligato in problems, loosing too much.
It looks that no group N car is holding for this "new/old" type of longer staged events.

**Viking** · 29th Apr 12, 14:39

Mikkelsen in problems, puncture??

**dimviii** · 29th Apr 12, 14:40

Mikkelsen....

**Francis44** · 29th Apr 12, 14:41

Ogier was already in front of Mikkelsen in the last stage, he tries now but punctures, shame.

**Langdale Forest** · 29th Apr 12, 14:42

Some of the PWRC drivers are passing him on stage now.
This means Petter is up to 8th.

**tfp** · 29th Apr 12, 14:42

Mikko 2/10ths behind now...Loeb would be getting worried now...if he diddnt have team orders on his side!

It also shows how much faster the Citroen is compared to the Ford, if you look at Hirvonens stage times from Argentina last year and compare them with now!

**Francis44** · 29th Apr 12, 14:44

Originally Posted by tfp

It also shows how much faster the Citroen is compared to the Ford, if you look at Hirvonens stage times from Argentina last year and compare them with now!

This is BS. Ford found some improvements for the car this year, in fact in Sweden Hirvonnen was slower. I think it's just about motivation.

**Gard** · 29th Apr 12, 14:44

Soon up to 7'th, shure he'll pass Ogier too

**Langdale Forest** · 29th Apr 12, 14:46

SS16 started.

**tfp** · 29th Apr 12, 14:52

Originally Posted by Francis44

This is BS. Ford found some improvements for the car this year, in fact in Sweden Hirvonnen was slower. I think it's just about motivation.

He was chasing for the win in sweden this year, last year in argentina yes he may have finished a close second, but not before Loeb gets a huge time penalty and all of the other front runners crash out! I dont think theres BS in there!

**dyfi1** · 29th Apr 12, 14:56

Mikkelsen broken suspension.

**Langdale Forest** · 29th Apr 12, 15:05

Hirvonen beating Loeb again.

**tfp** · 29th Apr 12, 15:07

One things for sure, this rally has started to get very interesting again! Shame about Mikkelsons misfortune, those two have been fighting like madmen.

**dimviii** · 29th Apr 12, 15:10

Originally Posted by dyfi1

Mikkelsen broken suspension.

Mikkelsen didn t start ss16?

**dyfi1** · 29th Apr 12, 15:12

Originally Posted by dimviii

Mikkelsen didn t start ss16?

Stopped at stage end ss15.... strut pushed through bonnet/ hood. Maybe end of rally for him.

**denkimi** · 29th Apr 12, 15:15

Originally Posted by Francis44

This is BS. Ford found some improvements for the car this year, in fact in Sweden Hirvonnen was slower. I think it's just about motivation.

the citroens are still faster than the fords, just as they have been for the last 5 years or so. the current pace of hirvonen proves that.

**Mise** · 29th Apr 12, 15:20

There is no need for team orders. I'll say Mikko wins this one.
Ford is making an great effort to cut team orders from the sport.
They suck so bad that Citroen doesn't need any orders.