WRC-Neste Oil Rally Finland 2012

**tfp** · 8th Aug 12, 23:20

Originally Posted by Mirek

I would add one more as it's an interesting man (I admit don't know him personally). Czech Josef Juračka was working in TTE in 1990-1995. He is now owner of Juka Motorsport - team which has been running Škoda Deutschland cars for ten years (now Wiegand in IRC). His team was also cooperating in building S2000 cars for Škoda Motorsport customers. Also capable of major rebuilds of all Škoda WRC cars.

Wonder if he had anything to do with the design of the illegal turbo restrictor? Must be nice to be labelled a genius from Mosley!

**Rallyper** · 8th Aug 12, 23:39

Anyway - this is still NORF thread...

Me and my son Simon was in Finland for 11th time in 13 years.

Very good rally this year. As always. Strange though, Jyväskylä didn´t have camping places for tenters. We had to find our own place outside the center of J-Ä. At the shore of Taulumäki we finally found a place to put our tent although it was quite near some industri buildings and near a thoroughfare for exercising people running almost around the clock...

We did 8 stages and got to talk to Ken Block after his off on Leustu. We also saw Mads on his very BIG moment at Leustu just before Saakoski.

We met friendly people we ever met before, nice finnish people on stages and after reading this forum I reccon we were at same place as Hartusvuori on Urria...

Even met Morten, Katie J at Ford, Per Carlsson, Camelopard and his lovely wife Erica, Mads and Jonas at recce on Mynnilä, Kai T and many more people.

I got my very need of Finland and will with love come back next year to the most beloved rally in the WRC. Having said that during listening to Jorma Kääriäinen on Spotify....

**jiipee64** · 9th Aug 12, 06:17

>>Having said that during listening to Jorma Kääriäinen on Spotify....

Auts! That must hurt!!

**Sladden** · 9th Aug 12, 11:43

Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

To me it seems that "the pain is too big" for other than Finns. It sounds like an old broken record.

What you explained about the changes in Citroen appeared to me as news, not as excuses.

And I'd like to add too, don't leave for this.

I think anyone with their eyes open could see a change from previous rallies this season. Citroen found an edge speed wise....seems like new suspension part could be part of the reason!

Citroen took 16 stage wins compared to Ford 3.

**Markko** · 9th Aug 12, 13:37

Here are our pictures if you are interested to see some: We hope you like them.

Neste Oil Rally Finland 2012 | Tango Team

BR, Tango Team Motorsport

**dimviii** · 9th Aug 12, 17:20

for which reason are these wooden poles next to the road? aren t they dangerous in a possible off?

**bluuford** · 9th Aug 12, 17:44

This is similar in Estonia and in Finland. Those are traditional fences for old farm properties. They are usually more for cosmetic purposes than for defending purposes. Construction wise they are very light wooden poles and usually not even able to go through the car window.

**Allyc85** · 9th Aug 12, 18:02

Sorry if I have missed it, but is there any onboard of Mikkos record run through Ouninpohja?

**Hartusvuori** · 9th Aug 12, 18:59

Originally Posted by Allyc85

Sorry if I have missed it, but is there any onboard of Mikkos record run through Ouninpohja?

It was not a record run. Mikko's time on Ouninpohja 2 was indeed 1,2 seconds faster that Petter's time in 2004, but in 2004 the stage was 230 metres longer.

**janvanvurpa** · 9th Aug 12, 19:12

Originally Posted by dimviii

for which reason are these wooden poles next to the road? aren t they dangerous in a possible off?

Some people say the fences are for keeping all the moosies in the woods and off the road. There are lots of moosies in Finland
But some say its to help the farmers who had a bit too much to drink to stay out of the woods and find their way home...they can be blind drunk and if they wander off the road they hit the fence then they can feel their way home.
Or somebody's home anyway...

Shirley, I could not comment on which is more true..

**CWJ** · 9th Aug 12, 20:23

Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

The jump was good, but far too many people out there. I was wondering about the Jarko Nikara VIP zone at the top close left side, fencing stupid 10m deep with only a few people inside agains thousends of slave to authority fans in 5-6 rows outside struggling with the marshals and helicopter before first loop. Even Mrs. & Loeb events...

**Allyc85** · 9th Aug 12, 20:47

Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

It was not a record run. Mikko's time on Ouninpohja 2 was indeed 1,2 seconds faster that Petter's time in 2004, but in 2004 the stage was 230 metres longer.

Ah I see, I had been mislead by the media!

Still any footage?

**tfp** · 9th Aug 12, 23:12

Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

It was not a record run. Mikko's time on Ouninpohja 2 was indeed 1,2 seconds faster that Petter's time in 2004, but in 2004 the stage was 230 metres longer.

I dont think he beat Petters average speed either...

**Hartusvuori** · 10th Aug 12, 07:59

Originally Posted by tfp

I dont think he beat Petters average speed either...

Mikko's average on Ouni 2 was 129,5 km/h against Petter's 130,3 km/h.

Here's Juha Salo's incar from Ouninpohja 1: NesteOilRallyFinland2012, ss17 Ouninpohja1, Juha Salo, Proton S2000 - YouTube

**uranium** · 10th Aug 12, 08:00

Originally Posted by tfp

I dont think he beat Petters average speed either...

Don't forget Mikko now is running on 1.6t, but Petter run on 2.0t

**Hartusvuori** · 10th Aug 12, 08:26

Originally Posted by uranium

Don't forget Mikko now is running on 1.6t, but Petter run on 2.0t

I think eight years in between made a greater difference, development on both the cars and the road.

**HarriK** · 10th Aug 12, 08:54

Are in-car films in this year free to uploading to net?
Just wondering because so many of these are online now. I didn't see any mentions in norf regulations although...