Rally Sweden 2012

**cali** · 8th Jan 12, 19:35

Originally Posted by MikeD

Dude...no more Beefeater for you. Hirvonen has never outpaced Loeb, so why should he start now. He won't win a single rally this year and I think he will find it harder to even reach a podium than with Ford.

In Sweden it's possible. Hirvonen has been very strong on ice and snow.

**N.O.T** · 8th Jan 12, 19:44

In sweden Hirvonen has the speed to win Loeb...in Finland he can win easy with no mistakes....but we have to see him in the DS3 if he can maintain the pace.

**BleAivano** · 8th Jan 12, 19:59

Originally Posted by cali

In Sweden it's possible. Hirvonen has been very strong on ice and snow.

True, however we'll see how much snow and ice there will actually be.

50km north of Hagfors there are only 10cm of snow and warmer weather is expected towards the end of the upcoming week.

**tfp** · 8th Jan 12, 23:31

Originally Posted by MikeD

Dude...no more Beefeater for you. Hirvonen has never outpaced Loeb, so why should he start now. He won't win a single rally this year and I think he will find it harder to even reach a podium than with Ford.

Did you see rally sweden 2011? Obviously not.

**danon** · 9th Jan 12, 00:14

Originally Posted by MikeD

... Hirvonen has never outpaced Loeb, so why should he start now. He won't win a single rally this year and I think he will find it harder to even reach a podium than with Ford.

A boldly-biased statement subject to correction later on by the creator itself.
Mark my words, MikeD!

**Salist** · 9th Jan 12, 09:40

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**bauwie** · 9th Jan 12, 13:15

Originally Posted by BleAivano

True, however we'll see how much snow and ice there will actually be.

50km north of Hagfors there are only 10cm of snow and warmer weather is expected towards the end of the upcoming week.

The forecast that I'm looking at says that In Hamar (region first day) and Hagfors, it wil be cold this week, and next week there will be a lot of snow.

**SubaruNorway** · 9th Jan 12, 16:59

Originally Posted by bauwie

The forecast that I'm looking at says that In Hamar (region first day) and Hagfors, it wil be cold this week, and next week there will be a lot of snow.

Hamar is 1 1/2 hours north of where the rally will be based in Norway, Kongsvinger is where you should look at. I think it's 10-20 cm in that area, maybe some more today. No snow forecasted for the next 10 days.

**tolis** · 9th Jan 12, 18:55

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**N.O.T** · 9th Jan 12, 19:10

Originally Posted by tolis

21 entries so far with Prokop, Al Rajhi and Weng: Entries « Rally Sweden

thank god that AL RAjhi and weng are in, i was anxius they might not make it....keep these amazing news coming.

**MikeD** · 9th Jan 12, 19:14

Originally Posted by danon

A boldly-biased statement subject to correction later on by the creator itself.
Mark my words, MikeD!

Are people blind in here??? Hirvonen has been nowhere in the last two years. He has two wins in Sweden due to road position - his other couple of wins were due to teamorders.

I am sticking with my prediction!

**Rallyper** · 9th Jan 12, 20:06

Originally Posted by MikeD

Are people blind in here??? Hirvonen has been nowhere in the last two years. He has two wins in Sweden due to road position - his other couple of wins were due to teamorders.

I am sticking with my prediction!

Are you N.O.T. ´s brother?

**danon** · 10th Jan 12, 01:22

Originally Posted by MikeD

Are people blind in here??? Hirvonen has been nowhere in the last two years. He has two wins in Sweden due to road position - his other couple of wins were due to teamorders.

I am sticking with my prediction!

You overlook many "small details" like...
Mikko Hirvonnen: "I´m 10 years younger! Everything is so exiting again."

Mikko Hirvonnen: "I'm certainly not have expected that the new car would be as soon as half a second per kilometer faster."(Googlish trans.)

That says a lot, if not all.
Analyse!

Anyway, a different point of view is allways welcome, MikeD.
Respect!

**Plan9** · 10th Jan 12, 03:22

Why isn't Mikko wearing the same overalls as Loeb?

**Plan9** · 10th Jan 12, 03:30

Originally Posted by Salist

New entries:
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Is Göransson going to do more rallies with the official Mini team or will he be involved with the Swedish outfit?

**Rallyper** · 10th Jan 12, 04:31

Originally Posted by Plan9

Is Göransson going to do more rallies with the official Mini team or will he be involved with the Swedish outfit?

Göransson is not involved in Swedish WRT, and probably aone off in RS. He´s gonna do swedish racing series.

**Hartusvuori** · 10th Jan 12, 06:02

Originally Posted by Plan9

Why isn't Mikko wearing the same overalls as Loeb?

You mean like tandem?

**Bartolbia84** · 10th Jan 12, 07:34

Originally Posted by N.O.T

thank god that AL RAjhi and weng are in, i was anxius they might not make it....keep these amazing news coming.

**Kiiver** · 10th Jan 12, 07:52

Originally Posted by Plan9

Why isn't Mikko wearing the same overalls as Loeb?

Rookie clothes...

**MikeD** · 10th Jan 12, 08:14

Originally Posted by Rallyper

Are you N.O.T. ´s brother?

Not that I know of...

Originally Posted by danon

You overlook many "small details" like...
Mikko Hirvonnen: "I´m 10 years younger! Everything is so exiting again."
(Googlish trans.)

That says a lot, if not all.
Analyse!

Anyway, a different point of view is allways welcome, MikeD.
Respect!

Age is irrelevant - speed is relevant and the future will be about JML and Ogier ... not Hirvonen because he's isn't fast enough. The only reason he has been semi-close to the title is due to massive use of teamorders in a combination with consistency.

Hirvonen is not hired by Citroën to take titles ... he's there to secure points for the Manufacturers title.