WRC Germany 2011

**GigiGalliNo1** · 15th Aug 11, 05:41

Mini!! :d

**Tom206wrc** · 15th Aug 11, 11:08

Don't dream too much about possibilities of the Fiestas vs the DS3s on tarmac

**AndyRAC** · 15th Aug 11, 11:17

Originally Posted by Juha_Koo

Really interesting to see what Ford can do with the Fiesta...

Germany is one of my favourite rallies, okay I admit, they could really try to reshape the route (nearly the same every year nowdays). Now when Ireland is not driven, it's the only "special tarmac" rally.

I hope Fiesta kicks ass, if it does, then I'm waiting a lot from JML. I'm also waiting a surprise from Sordo. Maybe he'll toss it or the car will go kaboom, but I'm expecting him to be fighting for a podium place.

Yeah, agree!! Needs a fresh look, new stages. It's become very monotonous - and sums up modern WRC era rallying. Thank goodness Finland/ Acropolis have done something different.
What about a stage on the Nordschleife..???

**6789** · 15th Aug 11, 12:14

Originally Posted by AndyRAC

Yeah, agree!! Needs a fresh look, new stages. It's become very monotonous - and sums up modern WRC era rallying. Thank goodness Finland/ Acropolis have done something different.
What about a stage on the Nordschleife..???

Yeah that would be cool! Its a long way from Trier but?

**Gard** · 15th Aug 11, 12:30

Originally Posted by pettersolberg29

Interesting to look at the early Pickems. Almost everyone going for a Loeb win, although one brave soul has put Latvala 1st and Loeb 2nd! A couple have put Sordo in 2nd too despite the Mini having no competition experience on tarmac which is hopeful in my opinion. Also very little confidence in Petter and JML (by all but one anyway!) which I disagree with - both showed much improved tarmac pace last season.

Petter wouldn't be allowed to win. Perhaps only if both the seb's have trouble. Petter will be app .4sec/km slower than the factory citroens. Maybe later this year, if Citroen wraps up both the titles early.

**Josti** · 15th Aug 11, 12:47

Originally Posted by AndyRAC

What about a stage on the Nordschleife..???

I think they once did that when it was still an ERC round.

**mm1** · 15th Aug 11, 12:48

Originally Posted by 6789

Yeah that would be cool! Its a long way from Trier but?

I wouldn`t say it is a very long way from Trier, considering the milage on road sections in the recent Neste Oil rally.

**Franky** · 15th Aug 11, 12:54

Why not add one leg with Eifel Rallye stages (don't know anything about the stages there) and then also a run on Nordscheilfe. New stages for the rally and they could make the Mosel valley stages into a more compact one day, then one at the Baumholder and one near Daun/Nürburg. Or how ever things will run smoother.

**hsmed** · 15th Aug 11, 13:02

Nordschleife has been used as a stage in Rally Deutschland many times in the years before the rally was a part of the WRC. If my memory is right they also had the rally center at the Nurburgring once in the late 90's.

**Barreis** · 15th Aug 11, 13:08

That would be cool to compare the times with local maniacs.

**pettersolberg29** · 15th Aug 11, 15:40

Originally Posted by Gard

Petter wouldn't be allowed to win. Perhaps only if both the seb's have trouble. Petter will be app .4sec/km slower than the factory citroens. Maybe later this year, if Citroen wraps up both the titles early.

I wasn't suggesting Petter can win, but most have him 5th, 6th or lower which is a surprise. I disagree he'll be slower than Ogier...I think Petter is a far better tarmac driver than people give him credit for, and can see him being the 2nd fastest driver in Germany. Whether or not he can finish 2nd, for whatever reason, is another mater

**darkstar** · 15th Aug 11, 16:41

defently tom! please no eifel and no nordschleife, hat would totally suck! they could so easily change all stages, there are hundrets of vineyard roads that could be used to change the stage totally in every year. and same is on panzerplatte, you could create a completely new stage there every year.

**Juha_Koo** · 15th Aug 11, 17:55

Few years ago I saw an onboard of Grönholm in Panzerplatte with the 307 (I presume it was extra on some DVD?) but now I can't find it anywhere... Anyone have any clue?

**Atob WRC** · 15th Aug 11, 18:35

Originally Posted by hype

Hello

Can someone help me to locate these places:

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2010/wrc/d...ikkonen_30.jpg

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2010/wrc/d...solbergp_2.jpg
I think it's on Ruwertal/Fell?

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2010/wrc/d...latvala_12.jpg

Hello,

The first photo is at Moselwein stage, on the final part.

Look at the file:

Moselwein.jpg

Best regards.

**hari** · 15th Aug 11, 20:55

Some images of todays SWRC Test can be found here:
IR7.at - SWRC Test ADAC Rallye Deutschland 2011

**Juha_Koo** · 15th Aug 11, 22:34

What kind of performance we can anticipate from Campana? His driving impressed me in Corsica but those were his home roads...

**Barreis** · 16th Aug 11, 00:26

Can't wait for start and Sordo's times.

**wildsir** · 16th Aug 11, 00:36

Originally Posted by Barreis

Can't wait for start and Sordo's times.

Me too. THX.

**GigiGalliNo1** · 16th Aug 11, 05:43

Originally Posted by Juha_Koo

What kind of performance we can anticipate from Campana? His driving impressed me in Corsica but those were his home roads...

I have to ask and look stupid but who is Campana?

I will research...

**Mirek** · 16th Aug 11, 08:14

Corsican, 2WD winner of Tour de Corse, this year with 207 S2000 he was 4th overall and 1st privateer. Also set many good results in 2WD categories in other asphalt events like Ypres, Sanremo etc.