R-Classes News

**PLuto** · 9th Mar 11, 22:25

I dont think so. Problem for Fabia Kit Car was missing international homologation...

**markf8691** · 9th Mar 11, 23:33

Just watched the Monte Carlo Eurosport review again and at the end of it they have an interview with George Donaldson, who is talking about the R4 regulations and he mentions that later on in the year they plan on having a team out out there along with a partner and some top drivers, can anybody elaborate on this? Subaru planning to run a team with R4 cars?

**Mirek** · 10th Mar 11, 09:54

Toshi Arai - Corse, Acores, Mecsek, Scotland, Cyprus
Fumio Nutahara - Acores, Scotland, Cyprus

Both in Yokohama colors with Impreza R4 so it's probably that team.

**PLuto** · 14th Mar 11, 22:46

Photogallery from tests of Skoda Fabia R2 - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11880

**dimviii** · 18th Mar 11, 22:22

Flodin about sti r4 + video

http://www.rallybuzz.com/subaru-impreza-r4-irc-2011/

**OldF** · 19th Mar 11, 00:51

Thanks Dimviii,

It was nice to see (and of course to hear) the comments of the drivers who’s did the test. The test drivers’ comments about this R4 improvement are encouraging.

I don’t think this test was about speed, moreover about the handling of the car. Let’s see how the R4 will cope with the S2000?

**GTA** · 7th Apr 11, 11:38

Ralliart Italy just Finished another 2 days of testing in Italy with Michal Kosciuszko driving the Lancer R4 EVO IX and EVO X, the results are very Positive.!!

**Sulland** · 7th Apr 11, 13:01

Originally Posted by GTA

Ralliart Italy just Finished another 2 days of testing in Italy with Michal Kosciuszko driving the Lancer R4 EVO IX and EVO X, the results are very Positive.!!

Is this the same kit: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90472 ?

**GTA** · 7th Apr 11, 13:22

you can Read all about the R4 Kit and Development on this link:

http://www.ralliart.it/r4_uk.htm

**sindroms** · 7th Apr 11, 13:27

Ketomaa has entered "BTA Rally Talsi 2011" (14.-15.05., 3rd round of Latvian Rally Championship) on Mitsubishi Evo 10 R4 prepared by MML-Sports.
http://autorally.lv/2011/?pid=3&lng=en&id=5

**dimviii** · 7th Apr 11, 13:38

Originally Posted by GTA

you can Read all about the R4 Kit and Development on this link:

http://www.ralliart.it/r4_uk.htm

we have already read this article.Something more except prices?Have you measure difference between r4 and not r4 cars?

**GTA** · 7th Apr 11, 16:07

Originally Posted by dimviii

we have already read this article.Something more except prices?Have you measure difference between r4 and not r4 cars?

Like i write before: Ralliart Italy just Finished another 2 days of testing in Italy with Michal Kosciuszko driving the Lancer R4 EVO IX and EVO X, the results are very Positive.!!

Ralliart Italy is constantly testing in Italy with Gr N and R4 cars. Test results will be posted when available.

**Rally Hokkaido** · 7th Apr 11, 17:01

I understood that R4 regulations only applied to current model of each manufacturer, so has Ralliart Italy homologated a kit for Evo IX, as well?

**GTA** · 7th Apr 11, 17:07

Yes Ralliart Italy has exclusively Homologated the R4 EVO IX.

**dimviii** · 7th Apr 11, 17:37

Originally Posted by GTA

Like i write before: Ralliart Italy just Finished another 2 days of testing in Italy with Michal Kosciuszko driving the Lancer R4 EVO IX and EVO X, the results are very Positive.!!

Ralliart Italy is constantly testing in Italy with Gr N and R4 cars. Test results will be posted when available.

Thanks Jack!
any photos of the uprated parts,specially the subframes,rods,trailing arms?
Thanks in advance.

**HaCo** · 26th Apr 11, 19:55

This is the reason why Boon in Fabia R2 did not make it to the finish in Wallonie last weekend and also didn't take home R2 victory in front of C2 and Twingo (Princen!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjEJF...layer_embedded

**Mirek** · 24th May 11, 12:58

Impromat Motorsport started Fabia R2 website: http://www.fabiar2.com/ENG

**OldF** · 24th May 11, 18:47

Nice spare part list where the serial parts and the kit parts are clearly separated.

**OldF** · 2nd Jun 11, 12:51

Originally Posted by Sulland

62 000 €, will they be able to sell cars for that, if the Fiesta is 40 000 for a complete car and the C2 Max kit is 34 000 ?

How much is a R3 Clio access ?
The Fabia sounded expensive to me ?

I got curious about the differences in the prices. The calculations took some time to make these calculations but here are my results.

A complete Fiesta R2 from M-Sport is 48.955 € (exchange rate 0,87) and a complete Citroen C2 R2 Max is 58.000 € and a Skoda R2 62.000 €. What should be considered is also what one gets for a certain price.

The contest of the different kits are quite different and it’s difficult to compare the kits, so I did a counting of items (rows) from spare parts lists with similar contests to compare “what do you get for the price”.

The only kit a know for sure is the Fiesta’s kit and it include about 340 items. The Renault Twingo R2 kit has about 310 items and the Skoda Fabia R2 kit has about 490 items.

Calculating the average price per item gives the following results:

Fiesta: 123 € / item
Twingo: 148 € / item
Fabia: 141 € / item

Pity that Citroen don’t have similar spare parts list as the others one, so I couldn’t do the calculations of the items for Citroen. But anyway looking at the average price per item, the Skoda is not so expensive despite of the high price for a complete car.

For a comparison the price per item for a Renault Clio R3 is 163 € / item and has 605 items in a similar kit.

**mousti** · 6th Jun 11, 08:19

That the Fabia and C2 cost more is without calculating average price per item is not even bad because they are the best R2's on the market now. Fiesta and Twingo having not power/speed of the Fabia and C2 in my oppinion.