[WRC] News & rumours (part II)

**Maxi** · 15th Jun 12, 23:58

video of Loeb accepting the challenge
Rally Car Introduction - Sébastien Loeb X-Games 2012 - YouTube

**N.O.T** · 16th Jun 12, 00:02

the video proves that the whole thing was staged long before the challenge was issued....

well done red bull

**Doon** · 16th Jun 12, 00:35

Who cares if it was staged? Loeb is just going to show the people of the USA that he is amazing, he should have worldwide recognition for his achievements! The GRC is pretty boring, but with Gronholm hammering everyone, it shows the level that WRC drivers are at. It will probably be a battle between Loeb and Gronholm......and as rally fans who doesn't want to see that!?!! It's all a bit of fun for them both really, but Citroen need a decent car because from what i've seen in Rallycross there are massive differences in the cars. Are the rules fairly relaxed?

**Gherid_lacksGPS** · 16th Jun 12, 07:20

Well, it will be following the typical rally cross format, as the x games is acting as a round for the GRC, if I'm not mistaken. The car should be great coming from Hansen. Excited that the US audience is getting some loeb exposure. Should be an entertaining event, if anything.

**Franky** · 16th Jun 12, 09:09

Originally Posted by N.O.T

the video proves that the whole thing was staged long before the challenge was issued....

well done red bull

It's PR, where everything is staged.

**Red bull** · 16th Jun 12, 10:16

"GarethRoberts, 24 years old codriver of Craig Breen, has died after suffering majorinjuries during the accident at SS 8."

**GigiGalliNo1** · 16th Jun 12, 10:22

On the stage... this is horrible...

**6789** · 16th Jun 12, 10:25

Very sad news. Hope Craig is ok.

**Maui J.** · 16th Jun 12, 10:28

Terrible news. Condolences to family, friends and fellow competitors.

**Gherid_lacksGPS** · 16th Jun 12, 10:47

What?!....horrible.....damn.....

He, his family and loved ones will be in my prayers.

**Allyc85** · 16th Jun 12, 10:52

Originally Posted by 6789

Very sad news. Hope Craig is ok.

He is reported to be unhurt.

Craig Breen's co-driver Gareth Roberts dies in Targa Florio crash - IRC news - AUTOSPORT.com

**bassist** · 16th Jun 12, 13:45

Another RIP in the world of Rallying over the past weeks! Such a sad loss , Condolences to his family, freinds and the Rallying Community, especially Craig.

**SlowSon** · 16th Jun 12, 15:08

Just six days ago Kilian Duffy was literally an inch away from the same. Something must finally be done from FIA. Its not so difficult to reinforce the cockpit with light and thin penetration-proof material. Neither so expensive, todays rally cars prices are speculative anyway.

**Mirek** · 16th Jun 12, 15:18

Originally Posted by SlowSon

Just six days ago Kilian Duffy was literally an inch away from the same. Something must finally be done from FIA. Its not so difficult to reinforce the cockpit with light and thin penetration-proof material. Neither so expensive, todays rally cars prices are speculative anyway.

Sorry there is no material on Earth which can resist that without being several hundred kilograms heavy. The problem is outdated construction of some railguards (especially ending) and their age/maintenance. But to change millions of kilometers of them all over the world is just impossible...

**Barreis** · 16th Jun 12, 15:49

What about carbon?

**Mirek** · 16th Jun 12, 16:16

Originally Posted by Barreis

What about carbon?

Unfortunately an S2000 car at 100 km/h has 3x more kinetic energy than an armor piercing 30 mm round from BMP-2 or almost 7x more kinetic energy than a round from Apache helicopter cannon. Few millimeters of carbon is like a paper for a railguard penetrating by the sharp end. I saw even a V8 engine block penetrated by them.

The only solution is changing railguards to newer types with easy deforming soft ends or with ends going to the ground.

**Rallyper** · 16th Jun 12, 17:09

The only solution is to stop rallystages with those guards on them. Very simple.

**N.O.T** · 16th Jun 12, 17:25

Originally Posted by Rallyper

The only solution is to stop rallystages with those guards on them. Very simple.

I think more fatal accidents come from trees....shall we ban those as well...

the simpliest solution is to accept that Rallying is a dangerous sport....

**janvanvurpa** · 16th Jun 12, 17:33

Originally Posted by Franky

It's PR, where everything is staged.

As is everything else in the eX Gamez.

Too bad about the simplistic, boring, venue---driving in a parking lot basically.

**janvanvurpa** · 16th Jun 12, 17:36

Originally Posted by Mirek

Sorry there is no material on Earth which can resist that without being several hundred kilograms heavy. The problem is outdated construction of some railguards (especially ending) and their age/maintenance. But to change millions of kilometers of them all over the world is just impossible...

Sorry but isn't one thing screamingly evident in so many fatal crashes?

It SEEMS they all on asfalto...

And I worry people getting killed on asfalto will lead to problems for everybody including us here who only do gravel.