Thread: [WRC] News & rumours (part II)

Citroen don't need Ogier or Quesnel.
Loeb wins 2 more titles with Citroen
Quesel leaves at end of 2011.
Citroen pull out of rally end of 2013.
PSA chiefs don't care about Ogier.

Take a look at this vote QUESTION DU JOUR - La question du Mardi 23 août - Sébastien Ogier doit-il être sanctionné par Citroën pour son comportement lors du rallye d'Allemagne? - L'EQUIPE.FR

QUESTION OF THE DAY:

Sébastien Ogier must be sanctioned by Citroen for his behavior during the Rally of Germany?

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People don't get, that Ogier is the best thing that have happened for WRC in many years. Imagine no Ogier! Most boring season ever. Let them fight!

Originally Posted by Lundgaard

People don't get, that Ogier is the best thing that have happened for WRC in many years. Imagine no Ogier! Most boring season ever. Let them fight!

you are right to a point, but Ogier needs to learn that his job is to drive, not to talk, he comes across as arrogant and disrespectful to all around him. He makes himself very hard to like, in fact I have followed rallying since the late 70s and he and Duval are the only 2 that come to mind that I would say I dislike!

Well, Nornbugger. I agree with Duval. But Ogier is different. Ogier is a real character and not a pr machine. When he is not winning he is furious, and that is the way it should be. Mikko and Jari are to much like "Oh, well...next rally".
And Ogier knows he has a chance to beat the greatest driver of all time.

I think Ogier is getting similar criticism that Hamilton also got/gets in F1...two highly skilled, passionate guys who love doing what they do but sometimes open mouths before thinking of the consequences. But both sports would be poorer if they weren't around.

I'd take an Ogier over a J-ML or Sordo every time

[QUOTE=Lundgaard;957191And Ogier knows he has a chance to beat the greatest driver of all time.[/QUOTE]


he has, but he could do it with more grace, he is a hugely talented driver, his drive last weekend was incredible, very few thought he could take Loeb on on German tar, but IMHO he doesnt come across as a person I'd like to be around

A few vocal hotheads are as much a part of the sport as understated Finns.

Originally Posted by Nornbugger

he has, but he could do it with more grace, he is a hugely talented driver, his drive last weekend was incredible, very few thought he could take Loeb on on German tar, but IMHO he doesnt come across as a person I'd like to be around

thats where you are wrong, Ogier is one of the nicest guys that I have met.

Originally Posted by Lundgaard

Well, Nornbugger. I agree with Duval. But Ogier is different. Ogier is a real character and not a pr machine. When he is not winning he is furious, and that is the way it should be. Mikko and Jari are to much like "Oh, well...next rally".
And Ogier knows he has a chance to beat the greatest driver of all time.

i think if Ogier was at ford and was losing as much as the finns do then he would also get that losers mentality, its normal. Ogier is in a winning team and wants to win everything..once you taste the win so often you become greedy...on the other hand if you lose almost always wityh hands down as the fins at ford then you get used to it.

I think the whole Loeb-Ogier-Citroen story is not that serious in reality, but the media who are used to dramas from the F1 inflate it, and the M-sport/Ford driven/sponsoerd media will keep it in context for long time because that is a good way to cover their failure.

Originally Posted by MJW

thats where you are wrong, Ogier is one of the nicest guys that I have met.

I'd be happy to be wrong on this, I havent met him yet, but I can say that I dont think he comes across well

Originally Posted by N.O.T

i expected nothing from a F1 driver....

I also expected the media would treat him like a F1 driver and not a rally driver with a future in the sport

I also expected that some rally fans would treat him like a f1 driver

there is a thread about kimi where you can see my views on him ...search it, some even had almost daily news on his rally career and even diagrams with his progress...but somehow they dissapeared after they realised it was just a fluke and a publicity stunt.

Nope, we are still here but there are better places to follow Kimi's rally career, without all of the patronizing and cynicism.

Autosport is just printing their annual Kimi bash. They claim that the Robetsons are looking around in F1, but there has been a few Finnish articles stating that the Robertsons aren't even Kimi's managers anymore.

Hopefully one day they would do a leading article about the teammate feud at Citroen.

NZ driver Emma Gilmour is set to at least test for VW before Wales Rally GB, potentially competing in a Skoda S2000 car for the VW team. This reduces the chances of a British national getting a drive as Volkswagen evaluate drivers for their future WRC campaign. VW team boss, Nissen, said that it was an international team and that they would look at anyone who is considered fast and of an advantage to the team, not about idealistic national goals.

Originally Posted by Boudica

Nope, we are still here but there are better places to follow Kimi's rally career, without all of the patronizing and cynicism.

Autosport is just printing their annual Kimi bash. They claim that the Robetsons are looking around in F1, but there has been a few Finnish articles stating that the Robertsons aren't even Kimi's managers anymore.

Hopefully one day they would do a leading article about the teammate feud at Citroen.

It's pretty poor journalism. But why are we surprised, it is Autosport, who lost the plot years ago - and are a mainly F1 mag. Basically, the way I read the article was that " Kimi is too good for WRC, and should be back in the Pinnacle of Motorsport - F1"
Also, when was the last time they had Loeb on the front, and had in depth analysis of him? There is a huge story with the Loeb/Ogier rivalry and yet they talk/beg Kimi to come back 'home'. Absolute rubbish......

Originally Posted by Livewireshock

NZ driver Emma Gilmour is set to at least test for VW before Wales Rally GB, potentially competing in a Skoda S2000 car for the VW team. This reduces the chances of a British national getting a drive as Volkswagen evaluate drivers for their future WRC campaign. VW team boss, Nissen, said that it was an international team and that they would look at anyone who is considered fast and of an advantage to the team, not about idealistic national goals.

Is there an article around about this?

Would think if she is getting a test Paddon would be on the list to test also.

VW may enter F1? AutoRacing1.com - Rumors Page

Originally Posted by danon

VW may enter F1? AutoRacing1.com - Rumors Page

why would a guy who was appointed at the R A L L Y department of VW would be considered as a move towards F1 ???

Bear in mind, that this is a Rumor.
But as the old saying goes - in every rumor lies a piece of truth.

Description (of the website itself- upper mid part)

A rumor rated as 'speculation' is one that has no supporting information

A rumor rated as 'strong' is one where we received information from more than one source.

A rumor rated as 'fact' is one that has proven to be true

A rumor rated as 'false' is one that has proven to be false based on new information

This one is rated as 'speculation', but isn't it how all starts, nowdays.

yes...the question remains....the guy was appointed at the rally section of VW not a secrect project, not a track project....so how is this related to F1 ?