[WRC] News & rumours (part IV) 2016

[OldF]

Wow, You are old. One of the pioneers in IBM (perhaps) PC users, cool. Internet (not in its current form of course) is even older I think.

EDIT: BTW that's nearly the same time I wrote my first software program, am I old too

As you know, here’s some old farts around here.

No, I’m not a pioneer at IBM. In fact, my first touch with computers was in the late 70’s when I was studying. I’m not a guru for programming but I’ve done few programs with language that could be called being near assembly programming. I’ve build a microcomputer with a friend in the past and made one program for that one. This is the book for that.

http://retro.hansotten.nl/uploads/el.../ukjunior1.pdf

[Barreis]

As you know, here’s some old farts around here.

No, I’m not a pioneer at IBM. In fact, my first touch with computers was in the late 70’s when I was studying. I’m not a guru for programming but I’ve done few programs with language that could be called being near assembly programming. I’ve build a microcomputer with a friend in the past and made one program for that one. This is the book for that.

http://retro.hansotten.nl/uploads/el.../ukjunior1.pdf

For what kind of computer is this with 6502? Atari 800xl, old Apples, or first Commodores?

[Mirek]

I´m not saying "new" Monte should be a solution, however Jan has a good point. Rallying (the word) is about gathering, right? So MC in it´s old form was very spectacular. I notice that many of you youngsters even not understand what we oldies talking about when hinting that some things were better back in the old days.

Back to MC in the 60´s. Starts all over Europe, like from Stockholm, Oslo whatever more places. Big news in media back then.

Making WRC more interesting isn´t easy these days when there´s only money rules. It´s a competiton against other sports, motorsports, X-games etz. having a WRC rally in Indonesia doesn´t make anyone more happy.
Solutions? I don´t know. Back to basic? Longer rallies? Enduro-thinking? Maybe.

And the grass was greener in the 60', I know. Times change and not everything what worked 50 years a go can be repeated today. Sorry but the idea to hold Monte in a way it was held in 60' is completely ridiculous. Just try to tell the team managers that they are going to spend two weeks on the event with thousands of non-competitive kilometers all around Europe and watch how they react.

[stefanvv]

Rally has become heavy lifting category.

[stefanvv]

As you know, here’s some old farts around here.

No, I’m not a pioneer at IBM. In fact, my first touch with computers was in the late 70’s when I was studying. I’m not a guru for programming but I’ve done few programs with language that could be called being near assembly programming. I’ve build a microcomputer with a friend in the past and made one program for that one. This is the book for that.

http://retro.hansotten.nl/uploads/el.../ukjunior1.pdf

Interesting, I guess it is more or less the same computer one of my co-students assembled from parts back then Pravetz 8D - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oric#Clones and used small TV as display. Your's is called "Junior" ours has been named "Home" (this is the suffix D comes from).

[AL14]

And the grass was greener in the 60', I know.

The grass was tastier in the '60, if you know what I mean...

[OldF]

For what kind of computer is this with 6502? Atari 800xl, old Apples, or first Commodores?

With little help from Wikipedia. Apple, Commodore etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS_Technology_6502

[OldF]

Interesting, I guess it is more or less the same computer one of my co-students assembled from parts back then Pravetz 8D - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oric#Clones and used small TV as display. Your's is called "Junior" ours has been named "Home" (this is the suffix D comes from).

Let’s continue here so don’t fill the thread with off topics.

[janvanvurpa]

And the grass was greener in the 60', I know. Times change and not everything what worked 50 years a go can be repeated today. Sorry but the idea to hold Monte in a way it was held in 60' is completely ridiculous. Just try to tell the team managers that they are going to spend two weeks on the event with thousands of non-competitive kilometers all around Europe and watch how they react.

Mirek, for phuques sake the main point is---and should be obvious---that the sport we like has become "cookie cutter"
And moron manager types and "idiot fan boi live-in-Mama's-basement" scream for ever more simplification, standardization, and homogenization of EVERY single facet of the sport..
The cars look identical nearly, the drivers look nearly all the same, the schedules of things are the same, most the "taught by manager" statements from drivers are the same, Just the introductory background long establishing shots are different.

Almost like circuit racing. And clearly intended to be like circuit racing in its structure and organisation , management and execution..

And with the most amount of sarcasm I can must this early before I have tea:

And they wonder why there is such vastly diminished interest?

Well duh.

[Mirek]

Do You actually believe that thinking about some utopia helps anything? What was in 60th was in 60th. It won't come back no matter how much You wish it come. There are more than enough reasons why. Maybe it's better to get used to the fact that the sport is not like it used to be.