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    Crash of Arzeno and stage stopped?

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    Quote Originally Posted by br21 View Post
    Crash of Arzeno and stage stopped?
    seems like that,also Sylvain if I understood well,spun at where Arzeno had his exit,and hit a female spectator and ambulance went into stage to pick her.
    Stage was almost wet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    seems like that,also Sylvain if I understood well,spun at where Arzeno had his exit,and hit a female spectator and ambulance went into stage to pick her.
    Stage was almost wet.
    Aha, thanx for info, I couldn't find anything anywhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by br21 View Post
    Aha, thanx for info, I couldn't find anything anywhere
    I translate via google the forum-rallye topic about Var.
    Stage 5 was raining hard

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    Oh its very close! (see attachment from https://www.ewrc-results.com/results...e-du-var-2017/)

    Anyone noting the times of the C3 & the Etios R4?
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    Arzeno went off in a place with no spectators; the car was fine but there was no one to help putting it back on the road. Michel went wide approaching a hairpin, hitting bad placed spectators; according to info, only a few got injured, but it could have been quite worse.

    Incredible times from Loeb: despite humidity and even some rain in the earlier stages, he’s ahead of all R5’s and only Salanon (Fiesta WRC ‘13) was able to give him a fight. Margailland keeps impressing; he won SS4 and is currently P4. Dumas is making a superb rally; he’s now at P9, with a huge advantage over RGT competitors; RGT P2 huge fight still going on.

    Link to follow the rally: https://www.rallye-sport.fr/
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    Won't they DSQ Michel? He hit spectators and didn't stop..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post

    Incredible times from Loeb: despite humidity and even some rain in the earlier stages,
    it wasn't raining at early stages only.Stage 5 for example was heavy rain at early stage kms.
    According to French forum comments wasn't at ideal tyre choice too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mousti View Post
    Won't they DSQ Michel? He hit spectators and didn't stop..
    If they DSQ Michel, then FFSA must take away Var rally (and eventually some others) from the series…it’s the organizers responsibility to keep dangerous places clean of spectators. According to info, despite the red tapes, the spot was packed with morons that, apparently, marshals weren’t able to move. Michel must never be blamed for what happened and neither for not having stopped, once there were marshals on the scene and it’s them who should ask for help.

    Unfortunately, rally crowd control issues keep happening all around the world and it reflects badly on our sport. Amazingly, some still think that’s not a major issue and spectators should be left at ease…
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    If they DSQ Michel, then FFSA must take away Var rally (and eventually some others) from the series…it’s the organizers responsibility to keep dangerous places clean of spectators. According to info, despite the red tapes, the spot was packed with morons that, apparently, marshals weren’t able to move. Michel must never be blamed for what happened and neither for not having stopped, once there were marshals on the scene and it’s them who should ask for help.

    Unfortunately, rally crowd control issues keep happening all around the world and it reflects badly on our sport. Amazingly, some still think that’s not a major issue and spectators should be left at ease…
    Sorry but what You just wrote is terrible simplifaction of such situation.

    1) Is there a rule saying that the crew is obliged to stop and check if someone was injured (unless they are not aware they hit someone) in the French championship? If the answer is yes than it's irrelevant if the spectators were bad placed. The essence is whether the rule was breached or not.

    2) If You claim that the place was marked as forbidden area it's the spectators who are to blame rather than the organizer. It's virtually impossible to 100% guard rally stages and even a simple no go sign shall be enough to inform the spectator that when he goes there he is the one who brakes the rules and shall take the responsibility if something bad happens.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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