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    It's impossible to judge a driver after one rally in a surface he doesn't know. On other championships he has done well, we must wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    http://www.maxrally.com/2015/05/13/d...to-you-thierry
    a rumour claiming that thierry might move to M-Sport next year? i thought he had a longer deal with hyundai
    If Neuville's goal is to never win another round of the WRC, then this would be the perfect move for him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    Most drivers has showed speed in fair competition in their very beginning. JML and Mikko did. Abbring? Well, not yet. It´s a wonder if he will. But let´s give him the chances many of other guys didn´t.
    Mikko? Really? I thought those first years were pretty disappointing.

    Abbring has had one event with minimal testing. Rallying is not F1 where pretty much anyone can jump in straight away and do a decent job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAS007 View Post
    If Neuville's goal is to never win another round of the WRC, then this would be the perfect move for him!
    Care to elaborate on that bold statement ?
    Markku Alén, 1978 World Champion

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS View Post
    Mikko? Really? I thought those first years were pretty disappointing.

    Abbring has had one event with minimal testing. Rallying is not F1 where pretty much anyone can jump in straight away and do a decent job.
    In F1 there are simulators pretty close to reality. In rally only onboard footage. Abbring needs mileage, mileage and mileage as much and as long as possible. All the other youngsters with lots of cash in their early careers like JML and Mikkelsen were able to drive around quite anonymously for years under the banner "very talented but needs lot to learn", only to be seen in you tube in case of big crashes... Abbring never had any budget and was even at home in beginning of 2013. All the guys here on the forum who are judging him now are very very very good my congratulations they should make a lot of money as Top Advisors for the WRC teams. I'm impressed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karukera View Post
    Care to elaborate on that bold statement ?
    when was last time M-sport won an event ?

    you have your elaboration by answering that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    when was last time M-sport won an event ?
    When they had drivers for the task.

    The Fiesta is good enough to win events.

    The point is Neuville should concentrate on reaching the finish to send data back if he wants to win a rally properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karukera View Post
    When they had drivers for the task.

    The Fiesta is good enough to win events.

    The point is Neuville should concentrate on reaching the finish to send data back if he wants to win a rally properly.
    they have not won an event in ages while other manufacturers won when the VW where out of the way (even an undeveloped hyundai and the abu-dhabi team)... so it is the car as well that is not good, get back to reality.

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    GRE 3rd, ITA 2nd, FIN 2nd, GER 2nd, AUS 2nd, FRA 4th, ESP 4th, GBR 3rd ... not a bad set of results the last time the Fiesta WRC had a decent driver on board (Neuville 2013).
    #M-SPORTER

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karukera View Post
    Care to elaborate on that bold statement ?
    Sure. Although my original post was somewhat tongue in cheek, it is worth considering these questions: When was the last time a Ford/M-Sport driver won a round of the WRC? When was the last time Ford/M-Sport won the driver's championship, or the constructor's title for that matter? I think you get my point. Malcolm had been in charge for a looooooong time, and hasnt had the success other teams have had.
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