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Thread: donkey of the race
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30th May 2013, 13:48 #61Originally Posted by DexDexterForm is Temporary, Class is Permanent
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30th May 2013, 15:43 #62
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Originally Posted by kfzmeister
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30th May 2013, 17:35 #63
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Originally Posted by DexDexterкак могу я знать что я думаю, пока не слушал что я говорю
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1st June 2013, 13:25 #64
Watch the clip in post #48, watch closely at Kimmi's racing line and the guys ahead of him. You can see he was already close to the middle of the road DEFENDING his position. As they get closer to the turn, you will see him quickly move to his left, clear sign he knew Perez was behind him and he saw the passing attempt coming. Was Perez over-agressive? I believe he was. Was he at fault? that can be debated. Was Raikonen's race taken away from him? I believe not, because he made a CONSCIOUS move to close the door on Perez.
Great we enjoy the successful passing attempts but we gotta understand there will be ill adviced moves too. So, rather than chastise Perez, I'll be thankful for another ballsy, gutsy driver that maybe in time and more experience, will give us fans a lot to talk about.ChampCar is racing. Anything else is just marketing.
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2nd June 2013, 16:37 #65
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Originally Posted by Big Ben
Kimi's entitled to defend, just like Perez was entitled to attempt to pass the slower driver. However, squeezing cars into walls isn't a smart idea when your entire championship strategy is based on consistently getting strong points finishes since you don't have the outright pace of a Vettel.
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3rd June 2013, 06:56 #66
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Originally Posted by faster69
Let's move further up the grid, the bulls were complaining that they were just cruising because there were two silver buses ahead of them. Based on your logic, Vettel should have no problem overtaking Rosberg especially he pulled out the fastest lap which was few seconds quicker than the average lap time. So how come we didn't see any overtaking attempt from Vettel? Bare in mind there were yellow flags and a red flag for Vettel to be right up on Rosberg's gearbox. Maybe Checo is a better driver because he was able to overtake 2 champions especially the Ferrari with a superior performance; or it's Vettel's inability to drive wheel to wheel even in a superior Red Bull. Sounds ridiculous but you know what my point is.Forza Jules! Forza Michael!
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3rd June 2013, 07:53 #67
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Originally Posted by faster69
Nobody gave Hamilton any slack or credited him for being faster and trying to overtake when he was banged wheel in Monaco a couple of years ago. Had Perez said a stupid comment after the race I doubt we'd even be analysing his actual driving at this point. Monaco is difficult to overtake on at the best of times, but its about picking the right time. Vettel and Webber struggled to even try to get past Rosberg who was apparently slower yet he won the race and two very experienced drivers got to the finish unlike our friend Sergio.
As I said before I hope Sergio carries this enthusiasm into the next races because I enjoy the racing spirit, its just Monaco doesn't always reward a driver who is too keen to push his luck..
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3rd June 2013, 16:05 #68
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Originally Posted by longisland
Let's move further up the grid, the bulls were complaining that they were just cruising because there were two silver buses ahead of them. Based on your logic, Vettel should have no problem overtaking Rosberg especially he pulled out the fastest lap which was few seconds quicker than the average lap time. So how come we didn't see any overtaking attempt from Vettel? Bare in mind there were yellow flags and a red flag for Vettel to be right up on Rosberg's gearbox. Maybe Checo is a better driver because he was able to overtake 2 champions especially the Ferrari with a superior performance; or it's Vettel's inability to drive wheel to wheel even in a superior Red Bull. Sounds ridiculous but you know what my point is.
Before the Kimi pass, Kimi was behind Hamilton by 0.8 second and Perez behind by 0.5 second. But that's from about half a lap before the attempted pass. Perez was probably about 0.1/0.2 second behind by the time he's coming out of the tunnel. Just take a look at the replay visually you'll see how close Perez is leading up to it. All could have been avoided if Kimi was able to lap faster in his superior machinery.
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3rd June 2013, 16:10 #69
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Originally Posted by henners88
If Kimi was able to lap as quickly as Perez then Perez would never have had an opportunity to pass.
It's quite simple. I didn't see anyone trying to pass Perez or Sutil. I saw Kimi, Alonso and Button all get passed. That's because Perez and Sutil out drove all three of those world champions.
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3rd June 2013, 16:16 #70
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Originally Posted by faster69
Perez overheated his brakes which lead to his eventual DNF - that's not driving with your head, more hot headed.Opinions are like ar5eholes, everyone has one.
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