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Thread: 2013 Monaco Grand Prix Thread
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22nd May 2013, 09:32 #11Originally Posted by kfzmeister
I figure they will qualify ahead of RBR by a margin of 0.5 seconds.
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22nd May 2013, 09:37 #12
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22nd May 2013, 09:57 #13
ody, since when you became a tifoso ? :
When you're tired of rallying...you're tired of life
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22nd May 2013, 10:13 #14
I have always been one.
Of course except 1996 - 2006 period when the was around!
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22nd May 2013, 10:51 #15Originally Posted by Whyzars
But is isn't only about about fuel. I don't think a fuel load of a few kg will make any major difference, we are talking somewhere along the lines of 1 second per 30-40 kg of fuel, if we are talking about that much fuel something is very wrong with the Mercedes engine. I think every team tries to use the least amount possible based on predictions from the FP sessions. And it probably isn't what is causing Merc's excessive tyre wear.
This could possibly be from the fact that they have far too much mechanical grip perhaps?
What I actually meant was the gear ratios, aero and balance of the cars are set up to suit their strengths, I am sure Ferrari and Lotus could easily improve their qualifying pace but it would end up in them sacrificing race pace.
For instance, if you look at the speed traps, you will see that RBR and Vettel in particular have the slowest times (on par or slower with the new teams, if not slower, 10-15km down on Ferrari and Lotus) in the speed traps. This is IMO, because they are set to dominate Qualifying and the race form the front. If Vettel doesn't break away from the pack in the first few laps before DRS kicks in, he is essentially a sitting duck. But while outside DRS, he will be consistently the fastest driver because gearing and aero are intended to deliver maximum performance with out DRS or overtaking. While other teams who aren't really challenging from P1 have much, much faster times and very good race pace and overtaking.
It is all a fine balancing act, with expectations set before qualifying even starts.
Which is why Abu Dhabi last year was so interesting in how Vettel demolished everyone. Pity we can't see speed trap times from races, I would say they would have been faster than everyone by quite a margin.
Although I must admit this is not very true for Monaco though, speeds are very consistent for all the teams, since overtaking is near impossible.
This is also why Mark is always slipping backwards in races, since he rarely gets P1, he is easily overtaken by those behind him due to his low top speed.
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22nd May 2013, 22:50 #16
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my least favorite race of the year
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22nd May 2013, 23:08 #17
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Originally Posted by truefan72
Shows how we all have different views and ideas. And why some of the arguements in the threads are out of hand.I still exist and still find the forum occasionally. Busy busy
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22nd May 2013, 23:56 #18
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The Monaco GP is probably the strangest race of the calendar for me. It's one of those races where I'm always expecting for pitstops to mean a change in positions or a safety car to come out, because I know for certain that if nothing strange happens, there aren't going to be any drivers switching position. And that's not what I'd call an entertaining race.
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23rd May 2013, 01:33 #19
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People who don't enjoy monaco i just think 'it sucks to be you'. Its an awesome race, and actually sees a lot more overtaking than people give it credit. And you always see those epic 6-8 car chains forming, causing epic chaos.
CAN'T WAIT!I am anaspeptic, pharismotic, even compunctuous to have caused you such pericombobulation.
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23rd May 2013, 01:37 #20
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Originally Posted by Koz
And as far as finishing in the points goes, remember Monaco '96 when only 3 drivers finished the race? Attrition is always high, opening the door to backmarkers getting good results.I am anaspeptic, pharismotic, even compunctuous to have caused you such pericombobulation.
Almost all Finn's since Paavo Nurmi who are fast in their sport have been called "Flying", particularly the 1960's rally drivers, but I was actually thinking of "Flying Finnish" - the timing line at...
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