Rally History (part III)

[Fred Gallagher]

I'm afraid that's all I could find searching the 1950's Motor Sport CD ROM - They didn't list the Championship rallies every year. The lists were published in the November or December magazines and were the lists provided by the CSI or the RAC for the following year.
Perhaps the Weisbaden was originally listed as Rallye Travemünde in October 1953 and by the time it was run it had become the Rallye Weisbaden. As I said above, the two towns aren't that far apart so it could well be the same rally. Or perhaps one club found they couldn't run a major rally so the other took over, or ....? Even in those pre-sponsorship days the names of rallies did change.

As far as I can make out the title "Rally Deutschland" and ERC status was given to a pre-existing event (at least most years) a bit the way the title "European Grand Prix" was used in the 1950s and 60s.

Wiesbaden seemed to be the most favoured but exceptions I know of are:
1953 Travemunde
1955 Nurburgring
1962 Baden-Baden
1966 DR title given to an event organised by Rhineland Westfalia club and started in San Martino di Castrozza in Italy!
1969 Baltic Rally also called RD

[Fred Gallagher]

D-Type, would you be so kind and post here also rounds of ERC from 1956-58?

1956 Season
26th Rallye Monte Carlo
7th Rallye Automobilistico Internazionale del Sestriere
6th RAC Rally of Great Britain
Acropolis Rally
8th Internationale Tulpen Rallye
Geneva Rally
6th Rallyer till Midnattsollen
Rallye Wiesbaden
Coupe des Alpes
21st Liege-Rome-Liege
Rallye Viking
5th Rallye Adriatique
Iberian Rally

[Fred Gallagher]

1957
Rallye Monte Carlo Cancelled
7th RAC Rally of Great Britain Cancelled
VIII Rallye del Sestriere
Acropolis Rally
9th Internationale Tulpen Rallye
Rallye Wiesbaden
7th Rallyer till Midnattsollen
Geneva Rally
Coupe des Alpes Cancelled
6th Rallye Adriatique
22nd Liege-Rome-Liege
Rallye Viking
Iberian Rally Cancelled

[Fred Gallagher]

1958
27th Rallye Monte Carlo
9th Rallye del Sestrieres
7th RAC Rally of Great Britain
6th Acropolis Rally
10th Internationale Tulpen Rallye
Rallye Deutschland
9th Rallyer till Midnattsollen
Coupe des Alpes
7th Rallye Adriatique
27th Liege-Rome-Liege
Rallye Viking

[FAL]

1966 DR title given to an event organised by Rhineland Westfalia club and started in San Martino di Castrozza in Italy!

Same organisers in 67? Didn't Hopkirk slag them off (with justification, as some controls were like an English "hunt the marsall" clubbie) after 66 so they refused his entry in 67 and he had to grovel to get back in?

[Fred Gallagher]

That's interesting....

I don't think 1967 was an ERC round. Do you agree?

[jrally]

Hello Jrally,

This is what I have, indeed it's very hard to find results from Austrian rallies

11. Lavanttaler Frühlings Rally 27-29 March 1987

1 Georg Fischer – Thomas Zeltner Mig Linz Audi Coupé Quattro
2 Franz Wittmann – Jörg Pattermann Funkberäter Lancia Delta HF 4WD
3 Franz Filzmoser – Markus Mitterbauer Volkswagen Golf GTi 16V
4 Andreas Karasek – Fritz Schweighofer Ford Sierra RS Cosw.
5 Alois Pfeiffer – Hubert Stadler Mazda 323 4WD
6 Eddy Schlager – Ernst Röhringer Mazda 323 4WD
7 Peter Holub – Wolfgang Jörg Mercedes Benz 190E 2.3-16
8 Karl – Müllner Mazda 323 4WD
9 J. Winkler – E. Winkler Volkswagen Golf GTi 16V
10 Langauer - Kisselbach Mitsubishi Lancer

9. Int. Pirelli Phyrn-Eisenwurzen Rally 1-2 May 1998

1 Raphaël Sperrer – Christina Hörner Renault Elf Team Mégane Maxi
2 Markus Mitterbauer - Detlef Ruf Team Castrol Toyota Celica Turbo 4WD
3 Achim Mörtl - Jörg Pattermann Sebring Technology Subaru Impreza WRC
4 Willi Stengg - Harald Wolf Sebring Technology Ford Escort RS Cosw.
5 Sepp Haider - Stefan Eichhorner Peugeot Rallye Team 306 Maxi
6 Raimund Baumschlager - Klaus Wicha Remus Racing Volkswagen Golf TDi
7 Herbert Lettner - Heike Feichtinger Team Castrol Volkswagen Golf Kit Car
8 Matthias Moosleitner - Sigi Schwarz Ford Escort RS Cosw.
9 Tomaž Jemc - Matjaž Korošak Petrol Racing Ford Escort RS Cosw.
10 Fritz Waldherr - Thomas Fleer Lancia Delta HF Int.

If you have more results of the 87 and 98 championship, please I'm searching for this, but hard to find.

Regards,
Infiniti

Hi infiniti,
Sorry for the late answer.
I have some results from 1998. Please, send me a PM with your mail and I'll be glad to send them to You !

Best regards
Jorge

[FAL]

That's interesting....
I don't think 1967 was an ERC round. Do you agree?

Seems it was 66 that Hopkirk had to write a letter of apology to get his entry (or rather BMC's for him) accepted, following comments in his Autosport column about the 65 event. (source: Bill Price, in who's books I often seem to struggle with the correct year)
Sure I've seen adverse comments from Elford about the 66 German too (but then he probably had something bad to say about all the 66 events he did for Ford...)

[grisza]

Thank you very much Fred for posting those ERC rallies from 1956-58. Could you please post also rounds from 1953 and '54 as I'm not sure if I got it right.

[Fred Gallagher]

1st European Touring Championship - 1953

1 23rd Rallye Monte Carlo
2 4th Rallye Automobile del Sestriere
3 3rd RAC International Rally of Great Britain
4 5th International Tulpen Rallye
5 3rd Internationaler Rallye Travemunde
6 4th Svenska Rallyt till Midnatssolen
7 26th Rallye International des Alpes
8 Liege-Rome-Liege
9 Rally Viking 1953
10 7th Rallye Automovel de Lisboa (Estoril)