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15th December 2012, 14:52 #31
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Originally Posted by Rollo
In a bare hand confrontation the chances to get away alive is so much higher then when both the aggressor and the victim are allowed to have guns, mainly because the victim will be dead long before thinking about his/her own gun.Michael Schumacher The Best Ever F1 Driver
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15th December 2012, 14:57 #32
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Originally Posted by Dave BMichael Schumacher The Best Ever F1 Driver
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15th December 2012, 15:00 #33
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Originally Posted by StarterMichael Schumacher The Best Ever F1 Driver
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15th December 2012, 15:16 #34
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Originally Posted by Starter
In addition to your comments Mr.Starter could you please explain how Bob Costas is A/ a bad reporter and b/ an idiot. Imagine, he was speaking just two weeks ago about another senseless killing and you once more are pointing the finger at everything but the gun.
As stated in one foreign newspaper Mr Lapierre (sic) of the NRA should be digging all 26 graves personally.
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15th December 2012, 15:26 #35
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I am not convinced that allowing gun ownership is the issue. I don't see the same gun laws in the UK as in the States, but we still have shootings - albeit, thankfully, nothing on a similar scale.
You have to have a combination of gun ownership (legal or not) and a will or desire to commit mass murder.
No-one, in their right mind, would take out classes of kids with a gun.
So, is it a drug/psychological issue that led this terrible tragedy?
As has been mentioned earlier, better more thorough psychological evaluation of the proposed gun holder before granting a license......?
As to how you tackle the drug issue, we have the ongoing debate over here of decriminalising drug use. I don't know if that is a plausible avenue.
All this aside, it is a terrible thing to wake up to on the news, and thoughts go out to all the families.Opinions are like ar5eholes, everyone has one.
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15th December 2012, 15:54 #36
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Well, the guns might be only the tools that make all these killings much more prolific.
The root of the issue is certainly psychological, or maybe drug related, however there are crazy people everywhere not only in the US, yet there are far less shooting of this scale in other countries.
The causes that I can think about right now are two:
1. Either there are so much more crazy people in the US, I doubt this is the case.
2. Owning a gun (or several) makes it so much more easier for this crazy people to go out and realize their 'dreams'.
IMO the gun still plays the most important role in this all affair as it is the tool which makes it possible to kill those people, without it the whole affair would either never happen or it would end after maximum a couple of victims. It is the tool which makes killing easier and less personal as the killer is pulling the trigger from a distance instead of having to get into close contact with the victims. It also allows for a far higher killing rate then any other tools available to population.
Just my 2 cents, but these might be worth quite a few human lives in the long term.Michael Schumacher The Best Ever F1 Driver
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15th December 2012, 16:00 #37
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Originally Posted by Dave B
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/po...otus.html?_r=0
http://gunrightsalert.com/documents/...444_A_2d_1.pdf
If if they did have an obligation the average response time is 8 minutes. I for one ain't gonna wait.
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15th December 2012, 16:02 #38
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That's your choice but I do think that we practice 'freedom' in a different way that's all.
Ultimately you can't have perfect freedom; no laws, no taxes. Government throughout human history has had to impose rules in order to make sure society functions properly.Please 'like' our facebook page http://www.facebook.com/motorsportforums
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