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Thread: Rally Deutschland 2012
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25th August 2012, 19:15 #701
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Originally Posted by tommeke_B"With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI
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25th August 2012, 19:23 #702
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Originally Posted by rpColin McRae
"you know, i`m always prepared to go 1 gear higher in every corner to beat some one... and in general you can get away with it"
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25th August 2012, 19:40 #703
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Hello,
some pictures of todays stages ar online at rally3.de
Karstenhttp://www.rally3.de
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25th August 2012, 19:41 #704
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Matthieu Arzeno 10th overall !!! Keep that work tomorrow Matthieu !!!
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25th August 2012, 19:43 #705
@ Karsten last photo is the best, mmm
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25th August 2012, 19:43 #706
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Originally Posted by tommeke_B
I keep referencing this old long interview with Christian Loriaux in magazine Racecar Engineering right when he came aborad at Prodrive---and subsequently we know, right when Subaru began their sudden and drastic decline that led to them leaving WRC...
Now all the details of things are one thing, but the shocking and lasting impression of the article was his enormous ego, and how he said in many ways, and in clear way that the drivers are not capable of understanding "all the systems" like he can
and so, in essence, not explicite but clear nonetheless, you (he) really don't need to listen to their uneducated subjective feedback..because HE knows better everything going on in the car..
Now I'm not making this up, I love languages and I read very very well, and not just superficially, when i read I understand when you say things you imply tons of more things......and this was English so not too hard to understand...
Quite frankly I could not believe what he was saying and implying---except that I have known academics and engineers exactly like this who "know" they know in short "everything" and that their "knowledge" trumps all other opinions and that includes direct experience..
Now most people I know over 20-30 years don't seem to change their "world view". They may learn more details but their view of their relationship to the external world doesn't change--probably not from when they're children..
So if he was saying you can't listen to the drivers back then, and he's clearly the darling child of M-Sprout, then why would he listen to anybody.
This makes me wonder if the key to Loebs long success is a more co-operative or collaborationist atmosphere at Citroen vis-a-vis Loeb and the designers/engineers and maybe even down to the mechanics vs the "Great man" theory in the more hierarchical British culture which we have no reason to think doesn't permeate M-sport. And that observation is from working with elite level French mechanics and teams and being around elite or former elite British mechanics and engineers....
Or the opposite way to look at it is maybe the struggles of the other teams stems from their probably more hierarchical organisation, and people....
I base that on the times which like I did claculate yesterday, Petter was cruising along at an actual 0.997% of Loebs times.
So the car can do it, the drivers can do it down to 0.003% (that's three one thousandth of 1 percent).
But something cracks consistently... maybe so simple as Team 'atmosphere'?John Vanlandingham
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Vive le Prole-le-ralliat
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25th August 2012, 19:57 #707
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Originally Posted by denkimi
There again, I might not have watched WRC then,I dont like the sight of blood....Ha'wey Hamilton, bring the WDC crown home and the beers are on me :up:
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2nd day -> Photos Rallye Allemagne 2012
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25th August 2012, 20:14 #710
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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa"With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI
Maybe I'm just a bit naive, but this could mean that Ogier or Evans won't drive Toyota next year, when they are trying to test Pajari's skills.
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