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    Quote Originally Posted by A.F.F.
    @ N.O.T. You do remember that Peugeot won the championship in their first whole season, don't you? So why not VW ??

    And claiming that back in the 80's every tourist could win a rally??? In the era of group-B cars ?? Cars that had to be driven in order to win, cars that modern drivers can't even drive. So tourists.... seriously?
    I remember that Peugeot won their championship on their 2nd year... they did some events in 99.... same approach as citroen...

    VW are coming full speed titanic style and i think that Citroen might be the iceberg....

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.F.F.

    And claiming that back in the 80's every tourist could win a rally??? In the era of group-B cars ?? Cars that had to be driven in order to win, cars that modern drivers can't even drive. So tourists.... seriously?
    compared to todays drivers the 80s drivers with some exceptions of course (kankkunen that is) were nothing.... but that is another story and not a rumor or something new to be discussed here...

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    Markku Alen was nothing? Ari Vatanen was nothing? Walter Röhrl was nothing? Hannu Mikkola was nothing? Henry Toivonen was nothing? Miki Biasion was nothing?


    Interesting. I guess you never saw group-B cars driven on stages live, listened to the sound, witnessed how the drivers took 90 degree turns or hairpins or pushed them flat out over the crests? They had no torque what so ever compared to modern cars, the revs had to be high all the time... Surely it got be easy, hey, it's easy with Playstation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A.F.F.
    Miki Biasion was nothing?
    yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T
    compared to todays drivers the 80s drivers with some exceptions of course (kankkunen that is) were nothing.... but that is another story and not a rumor or something new to be discussed here...
    I wish there was a Dislike button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T
    yes.
    Two time world champion?? Is nothing? Please, share your wisdom, how is that possible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by A.F.F.
    Two time world champion?? Is nothing? Please, share your wisdom, how is that possible?
    Just one of those weird NOT delusions with no argumental value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.F.F.
    Markku Alen was nothing? Ari Vatanen was nothing? Walter Röhrl was nothing? Hannu Mikkola was nothing? Henry Toivonen was nothing? Miki Biasion was nothing?


    Interesting. I guess you never saw group-B cars driven on stages live, listened to the sound, witnessed how the drivers took 90 degree turns or hairpins or pushed them flat out over the crests? They had no torque what so ever compared to modern cars, the revs had to be high all the time... Surely it got be easy, hey, it's easy with Playstation.
    It is not easy even with Playstation (or PC). Those cars are unleashed monsters and everyone should have huge respect to the group B drivers being able to storm through the stages with them and give us such a thrill. Some of them even paid with their life, and saying they are tourists is like you don't know what is this about. May be Loeb is spoiling people...
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    I think N.O.T. only likes to tease everyone... Because N.O.T. is too young to even exist at that time. Of course the drivers back in the 80´s were fantastic drivers and in full comparable to todays WRC drivers (top 4-5).
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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    Quote Originally Posted by A.F.F.
    Two time world champion?? Is nothing? Please, share your wisdom, how is that possible?
    LAL... yes indeed...impossible.... i wonder what kankkunen has to say about it...

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