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30th June 2010, 15:40 #1
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I like EJ Viso, but hate his sponsor
So yeah, E.J. is a nice guy, a fast driver and he's done well to find sponsorship, but I don't see how I can in good conscious support someone who takes money from a near-bankrupt socialized company that has just requested the Venezuela government seize 11 U.S. owned oil rigs.
Lawmakers loyal to President Hugo Chavez authorized the nationalization of 11 oil rigs owned by U.S. driller Helmerich & Payne on Tuesday, saying the move was necessary to put the idled rigs back into operation. The predominantly pro-Chavez National Assembly declared the rigs "of public utility," clearing the way for the government to seize permanent control of the rigs used to extract heavy crude from oil fields.
The Tulsa, Oklahoma-based company shut the rigs down last year because Venezuela's state oil company, PDVSA, was behind on payments. The company said last week that PDVSA's debt was $43 million as of June 14.
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30th June 2010, 15:49 #2
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Logically if you hate PDVSA then you hate Viso. He has been sponsored by that terrorist supporting Government agency for years. It wasn't like he was forced to take the sponsorship.
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30th June 2010, 16:04 #3
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Hate is a strong word. I don't support his country, but I can understand that socialism is a cultural thing and if EJ didn't take money from PDVSA then he wouldn't be racing and because Venezuela is a socialist country there isn't a strong corporate base for him to get financial help from, and its not like American sponsors are lining up to pay for signage on Indy cars at the moment.
It's a complicated issue, but yeah, his sponsor is $21 billion in debt and is seizing private assets of U.S. companies, can't possibly support that.
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30th June 2010, 16:42 #4
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Originally Posted by MDS
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30th June 2010, 23:25 #5
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I hate PDVSA because EJ's car is the ugliest. That's my contribution to the debate. Cheers.
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7th July 2010, 03:24 #6
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Originally Posted by MDS
What is wrong with a socialized company? There are many world wide.
We also have the police, armed forces, fire fighters, social security, medicare, medicaid and much more. All socialized. Are we bad?
So, when you raise political garbage, read up on what your post is trying to say and not spew at the mouth as others have done.
Did you whine and moan when Ford was the main engine in Champcar? Why are you not whining about Honda. Iwo Jima and the Bataan march should be more accurate for your venting and spewing of garbage."Believers that socialism is a one aspect theory are deluded and do not comprehend it"
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7th July 2010, 04:01 #7
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7th July 2010, 05:36 #8
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Originally Posted by glauistean
Discussion of a sports sponsors has often been discussion, from Trojan being banned from NASCAR in the 90s, to AVN in Champ Car in 2006, controversial sponsors are a topic of discussion, and yes, I think its fair to discuss PDVSA's actions.
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7th July 2010, 18:12 #9
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Originally Posted by MDS
The point of your argument has nothing to do with PDVSA. That's your smoke screen. Your real argument is with the government. You're most likely a right wing supporter. So have at it. As far as discussing sponsors limit it to them and not drawing in the politicizing crowd.
Tell me MDS. What is wrong with socialized companies?"Believers that socialism is a one aspect theory are deluded and do not comprehend it"
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7th July 2010, 18:24 #10
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Originally Posted by anthonyvop
is to be disliked. That is the simplicity of it. That is also why it does not belong on a Auto sport forum."Believers that socialism is a one aspect theory are deluded and do not comprehend it"
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