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7th June 2010, 01:06 #31
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Originally Posted by Easy Drifter
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7th June 2010, 01:08 #32
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CART, or AOWR, safety teams professionalism was always above reproach.
2 incidents to compare:
F1: Schumacher (Ralf) sitting alone and unattended for what seemed to be an eternity at Indianapolis.
Champcar: The 20 second response time to Katherine Legge's massive wreck at Road America... it was breathtaking! They were positioned properly and mobile before the car stopped rolling.
This incident was a joke. It was Saturday night late models! It was NASCAR! Three stooges. You would imagine they prepare endlessly for that one moment. At least they didn't have that big chubby guy from the "old" IRL days running around.
It looked like an I****** fire drill.Who, What, When, Where, Why -- http://champcarstats.com/
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7th June 2010, 01:13 #33
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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
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7th June 2010, 01:40 #34
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Speed Report did not show much of the 'rescue' effort. The fire at the Glen was also very disturbing and again not much shown. Apparently it was team crews from the pits who got to it first.
Wind Tunnel with Robin Miller and Tony Kanaan might be enlightening or a whitewash.
It seems the various organizering bodies may have become a little casual about fire and rescue.
The comments from the Ont. rescue marshal POS- Maggott indicates they are not as well equipped for fire as CRCA was in the 70's when full aluminized Entry Suits and proper Bunker Suits were in use.
That is not a critisism of POS.
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7th June 2010, 01:57 #35
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Originally Posted by Marbles
TMS was just stupid---9 or ten seconds is not long, but with fire, it is the difference between life and a slow painful death that can take 2 to 3 weeks before it is over--those fire suits provide a false sense of safety for the driver as to the need for immediate effective response to put out the fire...
one reason for the lack of an immediate effective response is that the fuel cells have been so effective in preventing fires in a crash......but obviously, they are not perfect and that is no excuse.
so even the old cc crew might have been a little slow....maybe???
but inexcusable just the sameOnly the dead know the end of war. Plato:beer:
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7th June 2010, 02:02 #36
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Originally Posted by SoCalPVguy
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7th June 2010, 02:05 #37
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Originally Posted by Marbles
they should have reached in and pulled her up, because them by pulling on her that way, she could not get out, on her own, and it was her actions, on her own, getting sideways and trying to stand up [while they tried to pull her sideways instead of up]....that got her out of the car
She had to work against the car and against them!!!!
There was only one hero, and that was her, and none of them!!!!!Only the dead know the end of war. Plato:beer:
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7th June 2010, 02:33 #38
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Originally Posted by markabillyWho, What, When, Where, Why -- http://champcarstats.com/
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7th June 2010, 16:57 #39
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I see 2 possible improvements that could take place quickly. !.) Make the safety team wear head & face fire protection. A full-face shield might be of help. 2.) Drivers, safety team and team mebers don't wear nomex underliner gloves under their current gloves like they do on their bodies, head and feet. That would give everyone a few more seconds of time.
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