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Thread: Ford - What a joke
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31st May 2010, 08:00 #11
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Originally Posted by jonas_mcrae
I know cars are remade pretty much after each event, but can they tire down? It was said that Latvala drove chassis that was used for 11th time for a WRC event (same one which Hirvonen used to win Poland and Greece last year). Hirvonen had same chassis he used to win Finland and Australia last year.Photos: rallirinki.kuvat.fi | Twitter: @HartusvuoriWRC
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31st May 2010, 08:18 #12
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Originally Posted by Maui J.“It’s what you learn after you know it all that counts”
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31st May 2010, 09:32 #13
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Originally Posted by Josti
Of course and I know this is why Wilson got rid of them but had Wilson kept just one of them on he'd have had the drivers title easily. It seems that Malcolm's interest is always in the slightly distant future and never on making things right for NOW.Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.
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31st May 2010, 09:33 #14
Fundamental Difference
There is a fundamental difference which explains what all of you are saying !
M-Sport is in this to make money, period.
Citroen racing is in this to perform and win, period.
As long as Jouhki keeps pumping in the money everytime LATVALA tosses a car and HIRVONEN keeps his mouth shut and says amen to Wilson everything will be fine.
Ahhh, Bosse, how much we miss you...
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31st May 2010, 09:45 #15
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Originally Posted by jonas_mcrae
You are right that Malcolm has to give up on this year, but he has to really put everything into next year because it's not like other teams aren't going to. All he ever seems to do is give up on one year but then next year things are the same.
Malcolm needs to cut one or both of his top drivers loose, Hirvonen has reached his dismal peak and Latvala is just too damn unpredictable and fragile.
Bazza, of course it's his own money BUT if Malcolm wants to win he needs to make better use of that money.Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.
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31st May 2010, 10:38 #16
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I think Ford's problem is twofold - the C4 really does seem to have the edge now but also Citroen's drivers have made a step forward too (particularly Ogier but also Solberg now that he is in a more up to date car)
I think it's time to forget this year and start a fresh with the Fiesta next year.
What I would really like is if WRC adopted a more IRC style system for it's manufacturer points scoring. That way Citroen would be rewarded properly for it's current excellent performances and Ford might be encouraged to put better drivers in the supporting roles. How much more interesting could this year be for example with Ketomaa and PGA in 'Stobart' instead of Matthew and Henning.
Regarding Matthew, maybe time to give him a different role at M-Sport, maybe encompassing some endurance testing and promotional driving, but nothing more...
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31st May 2010, 11:25 #17
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Everything is wrong at ford at the moment from driver choice, future driver choice and development plan, they keep wilslow wasting away sposnor money for his tourist cravings with bringing nothing back apart from public ridicule.
changing the rules will not change much, maybe at the start the cars are somehow equal but again as time passes the citroen team will again dominate.
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31st May 2010, 11:33 #18
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Every expert here on this topic have a point.
To sum up:
Ford is done this year. MW is building up a team that, with the new Fiesta, might challenge the DS3: s next year.
We don´t know what will happen to PG and Ford. Just that he´s gonna do Bulgaria. (And that gives him more tarmac experience - without any pressure on him)
PG is best value for MW. Fast driver, hungry for full time job in WRC. Maybe not paying but not so much sallary either.
Let´s hope the Fiesta 1,6T is as good as the S2000 version."Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
Tommi Mäkinen, back in the years...
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31st May 2010, 11:41 #19
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ketomaa is a better choice although i think both are for the moment not that close to sordo, let alone Loeb, ogier, solberg, latvala as speed s concerned
Also PG is crashing a lot....which is not normal after all these years of experience.
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31st May 2010, 11:43 #20
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and its not about driver, its about the whole planning of the team....Wilson has a team in the verge of being worse than the M2 team of their rivals and he keeps his son driving for no reason, its a disgrace to him, to his team and to the whole rally community.
When I go to WRC event, I want to see the best drivers as always. If I want to see some national drivers, I can go to some other less popular event.. Just simple.
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