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11th February 2010, 01:07 #51
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Originally Posted by indycool
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11th February 2010, 12:18 #52
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Originally Posted by indycool
And the playing field is level only if you're Penske or Ganassi.
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11th February 2010, 12:42 #53
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Originally Posted by px400r
In the past, you could sneak a surprise result if your Lola or Goodyears or whatever happened to suit the track and conditions better than his Reynard or Firestones for example. Penske spent quite a few years in the doldrums, a lot of which was down to their own chassis being uncompetitive.
If you take away all these variables, then its inevitable that the most resourced and experienced teams will iterate over the fine details until they are at the front - and then they'll stay there.
To be honest I've never understood the whole "level playing field" argument anyway. Even in an open formula everyone's cars are built to the same regulations - that to me is a level playing field. This is a sport and in sports you generally get some people who do better than others.
At least the cost/economies of scale argument is a more reasonable one, but are they saying that if the economy picks up they'll open it out again? I doubt it, spec series have been around in boom-times (for the general world economy) as well as bust.
They started off as a curious gimmick and rarity back in the days of Formula Vauxhall/Opel Lotus for example, but now they've infiltrated pretty much everywhere bar F1, F3 and FFord (as far as professional open wheel racing is concerned). And I think they've overstayed their welcome.
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11th February 2010, 13:53 #54
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Originally Posted by V12
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11th February 2010, 14:22 #55
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Originally Posted by px400r
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11th February 2010, 14:44 #56
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Ken, my expectations bare for very modest improvement.
Nick, the split hurt, It's like marketing the SPORT from the grond up now. More ovals helps. Centennial Era at Indy helps. Texas helps. But it'a long way home.
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11th February 2010, 16:45 #57
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Originally Posted by V12
But the NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL all do it in the name of "competition." They realized that by giving more teams a chance to become winners, the better off the sport in terms of fans interest. For example, it was fine when the Canadiens dominated hockey when there were only (literally) a handful of teams. But do you really think the NHL can survive if only 4 teams out of 30 make the playoffs (and a shot at winning the Stanley Cup) every year?
What Indy Car needs to survive is to expand. By expansion I mean finding a way to make more teams competitive. If that takes penalizing Penske and Ganassi in some way, then I'm all for it. After all, doing nothing and letting those 5 or 6 cars run away from the field has definitely not helped.
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11th February 2010, 17:48 #58
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Originally Posted by px400r"Water for my horses, beer for my men and mud for my turtle".
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11th February 2010, 18:32 #59
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Penske will retire one of these days. Chip Ganasty has been a big-timer in more than just Open Wheel Racing for awhile now.
Andretti (mike) isn't much of a leader in my opinion.
Lot's of old guys getting fed up with it all.
A nice analysis from the rally: https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/what-we-learned-from-rally-italy-sardinia-2024/
[WRC] Rally Italia Sardegna 2024