Thread: Past F1 controversy
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18th December 2009, 13:08 #1
Past F1 controversy
An interesting read here from 1999:
http://www.grandprix.com/ft/ft00336.html
which makes some of the recent goings-on seem like small potatoes by comparison.
I was particularly shocked to read that former BTCC team boss Vic Lee has received two lengthy prison sentences for cocaine trafficking (a second in 2005 after the article above was published)."Of course, what many people tend to forget is that Glen Richards was 2nd in the 1993 Australian 125cc championship" - Jack Burnicle on BSB at Snetterton, June 2008
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22nd December 2009, 08:28 #2
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Jo Saward writes very succinctly doesn't he?
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25th December 2009, 13:03 #3
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Originally Posted by D-Type
Interesting article there. To add to what Saward has written, there was also a case in the early 1990s (1991?) when Bertrand Gachot was given a jail sentence for assaulting a London taxi driver with tear gas! My source for this is a quiz book, sponsored by Mobil 1 and forwarded by David Coulthard (released around 1997/8). But here is a small article which mentions it: http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/drv-gacber.html
Its kind of funny (or disappointing for him) that this jail sentence paved the way for Schumacher's entry into F1. And Gachot's ultimate demise thereafter.Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam
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27th December 2009, 19:41 #4
"Renault did not win a title with their own car over the years. They tried numerous times and in 1983 Prost was two points away from their first world title. During the race prost retired leaving Nelson Piquet to cruise home in second place therefore winning him the world title by two points (Piquet - 59, Prost – 57). But after the race Renault had found out that the Brabham-BMW had been using illegal fuel during the race therefore disqualifying them. But Renault did not want to make a formal allegation as winning the title by default would falter the public’s opinion towards them"
http://renault.official-merchandise....tail/renaultf1
To confirm this...
From "Motor Sport" magazine, January 2001 - "Generating the Power" pp 36-38
"... Paul Rosche (BMW engine team leader) telephoned a contact at chemical giant BASF and asked if a different fuel formulation might do the trick (more boost before detonation set in). After a little research, a fuel mix was unearthed that had been developed for Luftwaffe fighters during WW2, when Germany had been short of lead. Rosche asked for a 200-litre drum..."
Rosche: "Suddenly the detonation was gone. We could increase the boost pressure, and the power, without problems. The maximum boost pressure we saw on the dyno was 5.6 bar absolute, at which the engine was developing more than 1400 horsepower."
"This fuel formulation was used from 1983."
The biggest disgrace in F1 history.
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28th December 2009, 22:12 #5
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Ah, but was the fuel actually illegal? As I understand it, the FIA fuel specification was not as restrictive as it could have been and the various fuel company engineers developed some very potent, but nevertheless compliant, brews.
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29th December 2009, 09:22 #6
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Originally Posted by patnichollsYou can't make a person love another person. You can only pray for it.
Stupid rules => stupid consequences :s
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4th January 2010, 12:32 #7Originally Posted by 52Paddy"Of course, what many people tend to forget is that Glen Richards was 2nd in the 1993 Australian 125cc championship" - Jack Burnicle on BSB at Snetterton, June 2008
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4th January 2010, 13:11 #8
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Originally Posted by D-Type
Perhaps Renault needed to find a reason to explain losing the championship to the journalists they had flown to South Africa in the confident expectation that Prost would become champion.
Other tales include team owners/sponsors such as Franco Ambrosio at Shadow/Arrows in 1977/8 and David Thieme, owner of Essex Petroleum and sponsor of Lotus between 1979-81. Both disappeared from the F1 scene without trace.Riccardo Patrese - 256GPs 1977-1993
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4th January 2010, 16:18 #9
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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
There was no reference to Rosche's admittance except that he was miffed when he found out fuel samples found there way to Elf/Renault.
FISA gave BMW the all clear which was somewhat surprising given that Ballestre favoured the French.The world according to Taki Inoue: https://mobile.twitter.com/takiinoue/st ... 7249326080
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11th January 2010, 13:42 #10
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A past, and yet unresolved, F1 controversy is Nigel Stepney and the white powder. Whatever happened to that story?
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