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    There were two collisions in the last week race, another one was in the pit exit. Webber was not in an easy position to avoid that collision and hence justifiable, not sure the another one...

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    I do think it was slightly harsh, but in the end, we have to remember the penalty didn't really matter. Martk still won the race and deservedly so
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    Take a look at what Massa did to keep Vettel behind him early in the race. Massa moved steadily to his right forcing Vettel to cut across the chicane in an aborted passing attempt. A perfectly good defence.

    I think that's what Webber was doing to Barrichello but he moved to his right much harder. Barrichello wasn't intimidated and they hit. I think that's where Webber crossed the line. A move to protect your line is one thing but a sudden jerk on the wheel is quite another.
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    On the lighter side, I have to chuckle a little.
    Here's mark who has never in his career been the first one around turn one at the start of an F1 race.
    And he's so close.
    Here comes Rubens just kinda sliding up the inside.
    I think Marks determination got the better of him in that situation. In the end not a determining factor.
    I think Mark went slightly troppo on RB. But nothing like he did after the checkered flag. :
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkmoon
    Take a look at what Massa did to keep Vettel behind him early in the race. Massa moved steadily to his right forcing Vettel to cut across the chicane in an aborted passing attempt. A perfectly good defence.

    I think that's what Webber was doing to Barrichello but he moved to his right much harder. Barrichello wasn't intimidated and they hit. I think that's where Webber crossed the line. A move to protect your line is one thing but a sudden jerk on the wheel is quite another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkmoon
    Take a look at what Massa did to keep Vettel behind him early in the race. Massa moved steadily to his right forcing Vettel to cut across the chicane in an aborted passing attempt. A perfectly good defence.

    I think that's what Webber was doing to Barrichello but he moved to his right much harder. Barrichello wasn't intimidated and they hit. I think that's where Webber crossed the line. A move to protect your line is one thing but a sudden jerk on the wheel is quite another.
    I preferred my chicken**** explanation Massa's defence showed exactly how it's done. You put the car in the position where he has to hit you or pull out of the move, not hit someone as Webber did.
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    I think Webber's move was too harsh - he and Rubens were basically side-by-side, when MW rammed into the side of RB's car. Thankfully it didn't hamper either's progress. I remember Schumacher having risky start tactics, but he was never that rude!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderbolt
    mark said he did not see him in the mirror so it may be time they introduce rearview cameras


    the way the mirror is facing you would have a hard time seeing anything be hine the back wheel
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    after watching this in slow mo it may be a case of of the wrong car in the mirror
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