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24th February 2009, 17:41 #51
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I think you are all reading this news wrong again!
I believe what the article is saying is that (if the winter calendar gets the go-ahead) then the start of 2010 will be the last for WRCars and 2010-2011 winter season will be S2000s with turbo plus extra aero bits.
I also think some people on here are too much torque-fetishists. A 'normal' Grp N4 has much more torque than an S2000 but there is no question which one is better to watch and listen to.
If you stick that Rallye-Magazine article through Google translate it calls the Fiesta's coming turbo engine a "2 litre vacuum cleaner" which based on the sound of the Focus WRC is about right
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24th February 2009, 17:44 #52
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MJW: The way You suggest would make sense. Manufacturers go downsizing with low pressure turbos because of more strict emission standards and lower fuel consumpion. Motorsport should reflect marketing needs. 1.6 turbo would be definitely better choice as a promotion for new car models in next years.
Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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24th February 2009, 17:48 #53
I hate to be the one to say this but the WRC switching to S2000 will not make closer fights like in IRC. If Loeb stays in the WRC it will be the same old show just different cars. I hate to see Loeb win all the time but he is the best driver and has the best team to build the best car, neither of those things will change.
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24th February 2009, 17:53 #54
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Originally Posted by Shrike
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24th February 2009, 17:59 #55
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Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze
We here believe a lot of things on S2000, but have any of the top WRC drivers tried out S2000, and if so - what did they think ?
But also try to remember some of the background for why, NA 2ltr is a smart engine seen from a manufacturers point of view, and why it was proposed as the new rally engine a while back; WTCC uses it, F3 uses it and rally uses it - Then they can participate in 3 different classes with minimum tweaks to the engine. In todays economical climate that is a more valid argument than ever ! And there is no reason for that the WRC S2000 can not be lighter than the one used today. FIA has changed the weight two times to match it better to GrN, remember ! The WRC car could be 900 or 1000 kg, that is easy tuning !
Would love to see a BMW 1 series Coupe S2000 Rally in the forrest, and for VW they are or will be in all 3 forms of motorsport, with the same engine in 2010 !
The cost is a worry, and it has to be a max price, but it is of course hard to control, and the "factory cars" might get the top notch expensive parts, while customers only get the B parts !
Any ideas on how a max price could be put in place ?
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24th February 2009, 18:16 #56
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Originally Posted by RS
Version Francais:
http://www.autonews-magazine.com/blog/?p=3788Post your own splits on the net: find RallyStopwatch on the Google Play Store.
Follow posted splits on twitter with #RallySplits hashtag.
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24th February 2009, 18:27 #57MJWGuestOriginally Posted by Sulland
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24th February 2009, 19:07 #58
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Originally Posted by SullandAnother Flying Finn
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24th February 2009, 19:16 #59
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A.F.F.: Lindholm was testing Fabia during the development also
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24th February 2009, 19:29 #60
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Originally Posted by Sulland
Any idea how much the current S2000 cars are wearing ballast kg-s?
Can detuning be cheaper than adding turbo kit? Or do they have to use more expensive lighter materials?Colins Crest = Möldri Mätas
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