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7th February 2009, 19:58 #21
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Alright, someone may try it some day. And I think you're right, if any race happens it would probably be an F1 race. But IMO, it will be a long, long time until an American OW series attempts it again.
Think about it. OW street races were being added and planned at the rate of 2 or 3 (or more) a year for a while there. Those days are over with and are never coming back.
While someone may try it again, I'd be very suprised to see a new street race anywhere in the U.S. for at least ten years.
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7th February 2009, 21:59 #22
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I think your premise is flawed. The real problem is that CC, like the IRL now, was too weak to draw a crowd at a street race. But it's not the street race that is the problem, it's the weakened position of the racing series.
If NASCAR could go street racing, it would sell out the first year even during todays economic situation. And I expect Rome to be successful for F1.
When the day comes that more than a handful of people care about AOWR again, then street races will be added to the schedule. Right now, the IRL just needs to worry about bringing the interest back to their Indy race."For 80 years this place has run on tradition. From today forward it will run as a business." - Tony George (Failed businessman)
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8th February 2009, 01:51 #23
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Originally Posted by Rex Monaco
If NASCAR did a street race it would be HUGE because of the novelty factor and the ability NASCAR has had to draw crowds to the Cup series in particular. I would pay to see it too....gotta say the carnage would be fun!
Seriously tho, I think Deco you are dead on the money in saying it wont happen for a while. That's ok, I would rather a well thought out and well financed proposal was brought to the IRL then some of the half-assed ideas that came out of places like San Jose. The only thing San Jose did right was in the promotion side and that was becuase they hired the guy that Molstar used in Toronto for all those years to set up the marketing and sales effort. Too bad he had a dog of a track to sell...."Water for my horses, beer for my men and mud for my turtle".
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8th February 2009, 23:13 #24
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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
Deco is blaming street races for their failure, But that's flawed. It was the weak position of the series that caused them to fail.
So I agree that for now, the IRL should stay off the streets until they can bring the fans back to Indy. Because even a free race in Central Park wouldn't be a success right now."For 80 years this place has run on tradition. From today forward it will run as a business." - Tony George (Failed businessman)
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8th February 2009, 23:17 #25
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Rex, as long as you understand Deco isn't even crazy on road racing from what I have seen, then you can understand why he has no time for street racing. To be honest, it has to be done right or the criticism is warranted...
"Water for my horses, beer for my men and mud for my turtle".
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10th February 2009, 01:11 #26
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Originally Posted by Starter
Rex Monaco said it better then I did ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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10th February 2009, 02:32 #27
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All of the evidence says that 9 out of 10 times street races are a losing proposition. The promoters lose money. The cities never see as many out of towners come to their cities to spend money as promised. And the series never seem to see the increase in their fan base that they expect.
After about 8 or 9 failures in a 5 or 6 year period it will be, IMO, a long time before anyone ever tries to start up a new street race.
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10th February 2009, 06:10 #28Originally Posted by downtowndeco
Gary"If you think there's a solution, you're part of the problem." --- George Carlin :andrea: R.I.P.
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10th February 2009, 13:45 #29
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9 out of 10 times the races fail or are abandoned within a few years. You can't have any more solid evidence than that. : ).
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10th February 2009, 14:28 #30
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The evidence asked for is the 9 of 10 failed street races. I could probably name 9 failed AOWR permanent course races (starting with Portland, Road America, Mont Tremblant, and Laguna - which, if you remember, was replaced by San Jose). I'm sure there are more. This is like a course in lying with statistics.
There is no doubt that making any venue payoff these days is a challenge.
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