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Thread: F1: Top 100 drivers
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28th February 2008, 13:56 #11
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Hamilton above Mansell?!?!
Oh well...it's all a bit of fun I guess
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28th February 2008, 14:38 #12Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
That says the list is bollocks, and it's only got to number 80!
I pretty much stopped reading Alan Henry's opinions in the late 80's, when Autosprint magazine (yes, the Italian mag, not a typo) used to do a journalists rating of the drivers after each race.
Henry gave Jonathan Palmer 8 out of 10 and his team-mate, Phillippe Streiff, 6 out of 10, despite the fact that Streiff out-qualified Palmer and finished 4th in the race to Palmers 5th.
That just stunk of the very worst of British motor-racing journalism. It made me realise that Henry was nothing more than a jingoistic, nationalistic xenophobe....the sort of bloke who no doubt thought it was hilarious for Alan Jones to drive the victory lap at Paul Ricard with a Union Jack.
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28th February 2008, 17:47 #13
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The list is comic. Utter rubbish.
Formula 1
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28th February 2008, 18:49 #14
Hamilton 30th. what, there are past champions that are behind him .
makes no sense at allBrian France is a violation of Section 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing)
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28th February 2008, 19:02 #15
Hakkinen beat Schumacher WTF
I solumly swear I'm up to no good :devil:
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28th February 2008, 21:04 #16
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The fact that Stirling Moss never won a championship precludes him from being No. 1. I don't care why he never won, the fact is he didn't and there is no way he is better than Schumacher, Senna, Prost, Clark, and Fangio who won 21 world titles between them.
I'm sorry Mr Henry but that list is rubbish.Forza Ferrari!!
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28th February 2008, 22:11 #17
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For my money, the best drivers were:
1. Michael Schumacher
2. Alain Prost
3. Ayrton Senna
All three I thought were underhanded villans, whose character is questionable. So I have to mention these three:
1. Juan Manuel Fangio
2. Jackie Stewart
3. Stirling Moss
Stirling Moss is an interesting choice on the list but not number 1. He lost the 1958 WDC after standing up for Mike Hawthorn in Portgual and thus lost the '58 title after winning four races to Hawthorn's one. In this respect is character is better than Schumacher's who punted off two rivals to two world titles and given the opportunity even denied his teammate.
It must be noted that Moss never beat Fangio except for the '55 British GP, of which it has often been said that Fangio allowed Moss to win but Fangio never admitted to it.
Jackie Stewart left F1 at the top of his game and was an advocate for drivers' safety. In terms of what he's contributed back to the sport, Stewart wins hands-down.The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
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28th February 2008, 23:01 #18
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Jacques Villeneuve 49th!?!!! But he never even started a race!
Oooh, perhaps he meant the 'other one'
And he puts people like Eddie Irvine in, and leaves out Mika Salo and Pierluigi Martini!! Hmm, one mans opinion is indeed, in this case, wrong!
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28th February 2008, 23:16 #19
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Stirling Moss the best ever?
Hamilton in the first 30 after only one season? (I suppose he'll rank at least 10th after at the end of 2008 no matter his achievements!
Typically British, the guy thinks like he never left the Island, has never seen a TV set and only reads British journals!
As others already pointed out this top is a piece of crap!Michael Schumacher The Best Ever F1 Driver
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28th February 2008, 23:17 #20
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A few factual errors there.
With the wisdom of hindsight you can see that Moss actually lost the 1958 championship on the first lap of the Belgian GP when he was trying to out accelerate Tony Brooks and missed a gearchange and the revs went sky high leading to a burst engine. The Portugal incident is higher profile and indicative of the more sportsman-like attitude of the times.
"Moss never beat Fangio except for the 1955 British GP"
Ahem: Monaco 1956, Monza 1956, Aintree 1957, Pescara 1957, Monza 1957, Argentina 1958, Reims 1958.
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