Official Ashes Thread

**Valve Bounce** · 7th January 2007, 08:20

Originally Posted by Hawkmoon

. On the the flip side, I think Vaughan's captaincy in 2005 was one of the reasons for England's victory.

I thought it was the Aussis's complacency, and lousy preparation.

**SEATFreak** · 7th January 2007, 09:32

Originally Posted by stevie_gerrard

Vaughan announced as captain for the one-day side, which surprised me a lot, i would have thought it would have been a lot easier to keep Flintoff as the main man, and how the hell is Vaughan in good enough shape for an international triangular series such as this one? I find it strange, but maybe we will see some good cricket now!

A lot easier to keep Flintoff? I don't agree in the slightest with that remark whatsoever (Boy, that felt good!!

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On what basis is it easier to keep Flintoff? Because he is a better captain than Michael Vaughan? Because though I am not a cricket fan I care a lot about the team and the way I see it, everyone saying Vaughan is a better captain than Flintoff cannot be just fate. Michael must be a better captain.

Though I agree with the point about Vaughan's fitness. He isn't strong enough for a Triangular Series, but we have to try something different to the useless shower of sh1te that lost us the Ashes and Michael may just be the man to turn them around.

**Valve Bounce** · 8th January 2007, 08:32

I really do think that we either abandon this thread, or ask pino to alter the title to include the one day series coming up here in Oz.

So what do you guys think?