FIA hearing - Mclaren out of WCC 2007 *merged*

[mstillhere]

Does anybody know what kind of evidence Ferrari brought in "court" Vs. McLAren?

[Crypt]

Scemantics aside, I think this decision is half-a$$. The drivers should not be allowed to drive the car. I think they should of been excluded from this season, but allowed to race next year for anyone. But then again, this was probably part of the FIA's deal with Fred and Pedro.

Bleh.

[truefan72]

Awesome job dude, that is great stand-up comedy material, it will be a hit.
....wait... you were joking, were you not?

Well I for one think the CIA was involved

unfortunately the rational and reasoning is a few legal leagues above your head Garry Walker.

no one has yet to explain how said documents arrived at Mike Coughlin's doors
no one is yet to prove that McClaren made any use of the documents

the first hearings they held and the judgement rendered at that time were suffice to quell any rubbish "espoinage" situation was alleged. What has proceeded since then is a farce and P.R. nightmare which only serves to alienate more people from Ferrari, while fueling the lunatic brush fire of irrational and unamiable on these forums.
I'ts back to the ingore list for you.

And to David. maybe they were seeing as theny need some kind of work nowerdays or maybe the former KGB... all in jest.

[Daniel]

I am absolutely disgusted at this result.

Its a shame Ferrari can't be proper men and settle things on a track instead of running crying to Uncle Max every time things don't go their own way. Never mind.

So Ferrari couldn't make one of THEIR employees stick to his contract.... this FERRARI employee then gives Ferrari info ... thats GIVES, not sells, GIVES of his OWN FREE WILL, to a rival team. And its that other team that are punished...... yep that sounds like perfect FIA logic.

If the other team had reported him your statement would stand up. But they didn't.

[Garry Walker]

I am absolutely disgusted at this result.

Its a shame Ferrari can't be proper men and settle things on a track instead of running crying to Uncle Max every time things don't go their own way. Never mind.

So Ferrari couldn't make one of THEIR employees stick to his contract.... this FERRARI employee then gives Ferrari info ... thats GIVES, not sells, GIVES of his OWN FREE WILL, to a rival team. And its that other team that are punished...... yep that sounds like perfect FIA logic.

I am speechless. I have rarely seen such a display of intellectual rape.

[Tonieke]

I am absolutely disgusted at this result.

Its a shame Ferrari can't be proper men and settle things on a track instead of running crying to Uncle Max every time things don't go their own way. Never mind.

So Ferrari couldn't make one of THEIR employees stick to his contract.... this FERRARI employee then gives Ferrari info ... thats GIVES, not sells, GIVES of his OWN FREE WILL, to a rival team. And its that other team that are punished...... yep that sounds like perfect FIA logic.

That's also how I am thinking about all this Oli !

[markabilly]

That seems fairly clear, but it leaves a big question as to whether Lewis or Fernando would have been penalized if not for the immunity agreement.

Immunity agreement was a good---indeed brilliant idea--as to how to keep the cash cow intact--people only care about the wdc---only the owners and the elite care about the WCC

Smash out a huge headline about a 100 million dollar fine (which may not be that large anyway) to blow away all the bad PR, and then the immunity 'agreement' keeps Hamster there--who is the driver that Bernie has said repeatedly, that he would "love" to see win the WDC mokin:

[Garry Walker]

unfortunately the rational and reasoning is a few legal leagues above your head Garry Walker.

no one has yet to explain how said documents arrived at Mike Coughlin's doors
no one is yet to prove that McClaren made any use of the documents

the first hearings they held and the judgement rendered at that time were suffice to quell any rubbish "espoinage" situation was alleged. What has proceeded since thin is a farce and P.R. nightmare which only serves to alienate more people from Ferrari, while fueling the lunatic brush fire of irrational and unamiable on these forums.
I'ts back to the ingore list for you.

If you want me to debate you properly, then make a post that doesnt make people with IQs over 70 laugh. I have shown many times that I like serious debating, but I dont debate with obvious lunacy, I laugh at it for the amusement of myself and others.

[TopSpeed]

McLaren Press Conference is out:

Here is the link to Autosport news...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62316

[markabilly]

Scemantics aside, I think this decision is half-a$$. The drivers should not be allowed to drive the car. I think they should of been excluded from this season, but allowed to race next year for anyone. But then again, this was probably part of the FIA's deal with Fred and Pedro.

Bleh.

You might wonder why Mac has to pass a special inspection to be able to compete NEXT YEAR, but they are good to go for this year.......weeel duhhh, this silly immunity agreement was thought out well in advance of today's show...and decisison (that was already decided some time ago anyway,)