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Thread: The Toyota cheat
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10th September 2007, 01:56 #21Something against the spirit of the rules is not illegal. Simply put, in its ruling FIA assumed that controlling the size of the restrictor is all they need to enforce. Well, they were proven wrong.
Originally Posted by Daniel
So, instead of admitting that, they punished TTE. Not good.
So, what Toyota did? They removed the turbo cheat, won the title again (proving they are still the best team/car around), and said bye bye forever
In other words, thanks to FIA we lost one of the most exciting car in WRC.
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10th September 2007, 02:30 #22Senior Member
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so you're suggesting they shouln't have been punished for the good of sport?
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10th September 2007, 02:38 #23Senior Member
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Originally Posted by jso1985
Apparently the FIA don't like smarty-pants!!!I will be rich, as soon as I invent a machine that can punch a man in the face over the internet.
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10th September 2007, 03:25 #24Correct, it wasn't TTE's fault after all. Their restrictor size was in accordance to the rule. The rule itself was governing only the size of the restrictor, nothing else. FIA were confident that that's all they need and that there was no work around it, but they were wrong. TTE saw that gap in the ruling and got advantage out of it. That's it.
Originally Posted by jso1985
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10th September 2007, 09:24 #25Senior Member
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You are merely repeating what I said. I said it wasn't illegal therefore they (Ford) weren't punished. What Toyota did was illegal
Originally Posted by jparker
Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.
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10th September 2007, 11:49 #26Senior Member
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What TTE did was against the rules, full stop. They were excluded because what they did was illegal. Brilliant, but illegal.
Originally Posted by jparker
Thanks to the FIA Toyota moved from one FIA championship to another FIA championship. Your logic doesn't follow. Toyota moved because they wanted to be somewhere else, not because they were caught cheating years earlier.
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I don't get it

How we lost Toyota since they came back with Corolla WRC?Another Flying Finn
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10th September 2007, 12:14 #28Senior Member
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Yes that was what I was told from someone at the Australian Team. The cheat was discovered by studying the turbo under a microscope and a 'hair' could be seen where it shouldn't have been.....
Originally Posted by Daniel
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10th September 2007, 12:23 #29Senior Member
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jparker: According to the rulles all air going to the turbocharger must go through the restrictor. And the air comming outside the restrictor is therefore illegal. That's all and easy to understand, isn't it?
Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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10th September 2007, 12:29 #30Senior Member
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I wouldn't thought simply spraying a dye or something around the restrictor while ensuring that none of the dye got in through the restrictor would have shown it up.
Originally Posted by cossie16
Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.


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