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3rd September 2007, 12:26 #51
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Originally Posted by AndyRACCasey Stoner: 2007 World Champion
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3rd September 2007, 12:43 #52
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Originally Posted by ozrevhead
Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???
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3rd September 2007, 14:44 #53
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Came across a post-Misano Rossi interview, where he commented that it's a pity that it's no longer the case that the rider is the most significant aspect of the performance (words to that effect). I'm disappointed to see Rossi making such petulant comments, as I have more respect for him and his achievements than anyone else out there - to date, only Pedrosa had been blaming everything but his own performance. Everyone else out there can see what's going on, and is man enough to say so. Yes, technology is here. But Rossi has used emerging technology to his benefit over the years, arguably more so than any other current rider! You can't have it both ways (although rumour has it that he does, but this isn't that sort of forum ; )
Perhaps if Rossi could get closer to Stoner he'd realise that Stoner is simply riding the rings out of the bike... he's in select company, here's my list of the riders who do the same and get the results. In no particular order:
Hopkins (has not had the results he's deserved, that's changing)
Mladin
Bayliss
Sofuoglu
Vermeulen (also now starting to shine - if he can reach his WSB form then Stoner will have a fight on his hands for wins)
I can't speak for BSB as I'm not following it this year, but past experience tells me there's that many again in BSB alone. All of these guys do the business from start to finish - no late charges, no breaking away and then backing off. No overt mind games on or off the track. No whinging when it doesn't go their way (well Hopper has a few times, but in his defence he's stuck it out while the bike went through its adolesence, and is a major contributor to its current form).
As always, we'll just let the riding do the talking... Stoner is the first rider to win three in a row on a non-Japanese bike since Ago, and is likely to take 13 wins this year, surpassing Doohan (12) and Rossi (11). He has more points at this time than Hayden had overall last year, with 5 rounds to go. He has led something like 2/3rds of all laps so far in 2007. He broke the pole-to-win curse.
But yeah, if he wasn't on a Ducati (with a whole 5 years* worth of GP experience in it), he'd be getting hosed every round. It's not like he's put his whole life into becoming world champion, or anything...
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* Funny how no-one is commenting on the superlative efforts of Ducati in building the best 4-stroke GP bike ever? Might start a topic on that one.Phantom... Bike Who Parks
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3rd September 2007, 14:50 #54
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BTW I'm not implying that people here are bagging Stoner, you guys know which way is up. I guess I'm just venting at what I'm reading elsewhere. I understand the 'boring' comments, but of course you understand that it's not boring at all to Australians
He looks impressive no matter what he's riding:
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3rd September 2007, 15:32 #55
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In my mind its something like this:
60% rider 40% bike, at worst its 50-50, the bike importance has increased for rider 80% bike 20% as Burgess described it back in the 500s but still the rider is more important. In comparison I rate F1 as 80% car 20% driverI got my motorcycle jacket, but I'm walking all the time...
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3rd September 2007, 15:41 #56
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An interesting article on the subject (this is just a part of it that someone typed for another forum)
Originally Posted by Mat Oxley In the September issue of RRWI got my motorcycle jacket, but I'm walking all the time...
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3rd September 2007, 18:36 #57
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3rd September 2007, 20:47 #58
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Originally Posted by The Phantom
Because he won, he got the most points in the end.
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