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    The whole token thing is a retarded idea that should never have existed. It not only makes it nearly impossible for teams to catch up to their competitors, it also makes it impossible for teams to adjust their cars to changing driver lineups. If tanak finds they hyundai once again impossible to drive with his style, there is almost nothing that can be done due to the tokens not allowing change.

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    Then he should adjust, great drivers tend to do that.

    But I agree with the token system, its rubbish. I remember when it was on F1. Horrible to be a Mclaren fan.

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    they are adjusting, but to fight for the title everything must come together.

    Like Ogier with VW, Loeb with Citroen, Tänak with Toyota or now Kalle in Toyota.
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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    The whole token thing is a retarded idea that should never have existed. It not only makes it nearly impossible for teams to catch up to their competitors, it also makes it impossible for teams to adjust their cars to changing driver lineups. If tanak finds they hyundai once again impossible to drive with his style, there is almost nothing that can be done due to the tokens not allowing change.
    It's a fine line between cost saving and dumbing down the championship...

    But I agree, there should be more freedom. As a Abiteboul said at the beginning of his role at Hyundai, more technical developments creat more stories. Might not entice "Drive to survive typ" fans but some people for sure.

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    Tom Fowler and the aero topics of Toyota in 2023

    https://www.wrcwings.tech/2023/11/13...oyota-in-2023/
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    Although there were rumours, it's still feels like a big surprise that Kalle won't defend his drivers's crown next year.

    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/rovan...ogram-in-2024/

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    Could it be Evans year? Katsuta won't challenge him and the Ogier/Rovanpera combo can come in and beat Neuville/Tanak, Evans can do his thing and could come out on top at the end of the year.

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    Kalle, which is 23 years old, said he already drives rally for 15 years, which is bit ridiculous.

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    If Rovanperä goes to fast-gravel rallies not-first-on-the-road and Ogier to not-that-fast-gravel rallies not first on the road, there is quite big chance that they take the wins there - big points away from others.. but, including Evans. So far Toyota has not used team-orders and actually it is hard to see also that Ogier or Rovanperä could go to start when they know that they need to give position away for Evans (for drivers title). From manu title point of view it makes sense - most likely they get more wins (or at least have some advantage to do so) than Hyundai non-full-season drivers.

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    Just cant believe it, i thought that he can dominate for years, its very strange, on the other hand Elfyn as no 1 i dont know if he can do it mentally.
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