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18th October 2021, 16:20 #351
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It’s different resource-wise to rent a car in one-off event than to have an extra car in all rounds. Personnel, spare parts, chassis service capacity in garage, test days…not just money.
But if Katsuta wasn’t in fourth car, maybe they would have slotted Kalle there. But maybe the third seat would have gone to Latvala or Meeke?Last edited by AnttiL; 18th October 2021 at 16:22.
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18th October 2021, 16:36 #352
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Moot point in a way as Toyota were never hiring Mikkelsen anyway, because the team simply don't rate him (they overlooked him at the end of 2016 for JML, kept Hanninen who had a shocking 1st half of 2017 while Mikkelsen was a free agent, and now again they've not shown any interest for next year and opted for Lappi instead). Kalle was a must sign, and he needed pushed into a fulltime seat to learn and adapt to the pressures and levels required. (And in a covid year, with less events and seat time, plus Evans Monza mistake and Ogier dropped pts..., running Kalle a full season wasn't solely why they lost the title as has been mentioned).
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18th October 2021, 17:34 #353
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Punctures are not a choice, just like crashes or mechanical failures. But drivers are.
Ogier and Evans were one and two in the championship. So without the 3th driver being able to score points, they would have easily taken the title.
However you put it, had they chosen to take a different more proven 3th driver, they would most likely have won the title.
It was not some unforseeable issue, it was a deliberate choice. A choice that was predictably bad considering what the competition did.
And it cost them the title.
Not because Rovanperä did bad, but because he was up to way too good drivers.
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18th October 2021, 17:35 #354
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Driver points are not the same as manu points.
In manu points Rovanpera had 37 vs 85 (I think), posted just a few pages back.
All the people posting how it was so close...yes it was, cause Ogier and Evans were 1-2 in champs and Evans had massive performance increase.
Anyway this shouldn't be a history thread. Even though it's interesting to see how people can't remember one year back.
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18th October 2021, 17:40 #355
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Last edited by AnttiL; 18th October 2021 at 17:49.
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18th October 2021, 17:53 #357
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And like I've said, there's a more complex scoring system.
As an extreme example, if a team gets 1-2-3's in every rally, first driver wins every event, second driver finishes second and third driver third, the third driver scores 0 manufacturer points during the whole season. Has he performed bad?
And then in another scenario the first and second driver retire every second event so the third driver finishes second in every rally while first and second driver alternate winning the events. Now the third driver scores manufacturer points in every rally although the team score is equal to the first scenario. Did he do any better than in the first scenario?
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18th October 2021, 18:37 #358
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Just for fun, lowest position that Toyota 3rd driver needed to do in each rally so that the team scores more than it did:
1. Monte: Win and beat Neuville, Ogier, Evans, Lappi (Rovanpera 5th)
2. Sweden: 2nd and beat Tanak (Rovanpera 3rd)
3. Mexico: 3rd beat Suninen, Evans (Rovanpera 5th)
4. Estonia: 2nd and beat Breen, Ogier, Evans (Rovanpera 5th)
5. Turkey: 3rd and beat Loeb (Rovanpera 4th)
6. Sardinia: 2nd and beat Neuville, Ogier, Evans (Rovanpera DNF)
7. Monza: 4th and beat Lappi, further was Sordo 3rd (Rovanpera 5th)
not exactly light names
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18th October 2021, 19:59 #359
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19th October 2021, 05:49 #360
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Would it be any point at all for Mikkelsen to rent a WRC from M-sport for Monza?
Can he gain anything?
Lets say he win at Monza, it's still no seats available.
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A nice analysis from the rally: https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/what-we-learned-from-rally-italy-sardinia-2024/
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