4WD Cars with national/regional homologation

[Mirek]

You just answered Yourself. The cars are competitive only for a cup of same cars. But for something like that You need something very cheap and these cars are not cheap.

There is way better way for young talents to develop themselves. Take much cheaper R2 and go to proper competition in JERC. From there it's much easier to get into R5 than from some proto car.

There is different situation overseas but in Europe there is little sense in buying such car (except when there are very special rules made for them like in Spain).

[RS]

what!!!!???

Don't listen to Coach2, but I've got bad news.. Santa is using a 208 T16 this year so there's no way he's going to make it round the world without suffering transmission failure or somesuch

[Jarek Z]

Don't listen to Coach2, but I've got bad news.. Santa is using a 208 T16 this year so there's no way he's going to make it round the world without suffering transmission failure or somesuch

But when he finally arrives the presents he gives this year seem worth the wait
https://www.facebook.com/volkswagenm...3230900734038/

[Coach 2]

what!!!!???

No, it might not be the best comparison, but believing it would be possible (cheapl durable 4wd) becomes like believing in St. Claus.

[Coach 2]

Who said anything about fast. What is fast anyway; is R2 or R3 fast, or only R5 and WRCar?
For talents on their way up it does not matter much, as long as all cars are equally slow/fast. Then the driver talemts emerge.

As it was in Norwegian Subaru Cup. Equal cars that you could both rally and racing with, at a reasonable price.

The Dytko cars could serve the same purpose for instance in a Nordic Cup. Meant to develop drivers, with coaching both for driving on surfaces, racing on track, media training, mental training and so on. This means that the 4 ASNs must agree on rules and regulations. Not easy, but doable.

How much do you think this cup cost Subaru Norway.
And do you really believe these cars were cheap to maintain, per km.

And if this eventual 4wd class is not faster a R2 or R3, what is the purpose then.

[denkimi]

How in the whole world can some believe that it's possible to build a 4wd that is both fast, and cheap to build, and in addition durable and cheap to operate.
And this car should be significantly cheaper than r5, and almost as fast and durable.
If you do not know, Santa does not exist.

instead of using a highly tuned 1.6 engine that costs 20.000€, you can use a 3.0 engine that costs 5000€ but produces just as much power and last much longer.

that gives you the same speed, but saves a lot of money.

[Coach 2]

Does it exist such a 4 cylinder 3000ccm, 5000E

[Sulland]

How much do you think this cup cost Subaru Norway.
And do you really believe these cars were cheap to maintain, per km.

And if this eventual 4wd class is not faster a R2 or R3, what is the purpose then.

http://www.motortrend.com/news/norwe...-sti-cup-cars/
the car was a more or less standard Impreza, different shocks, standard diffs, stronger gearbox if my memory serves me.
Original prize was as far as I remember 280 000 Nok. Today just divide by 10.

Many drivers used the cup as a springboard. Mikkelsen, Aasen, Pontus Tidemand, among others.

[denkimi]

Does it exist such a 4 cylinder 3000ccm, 5000E

why should it be a 4 cylinder?
that's the whole point. pushing stuff to the limit is very expensive, using commercially available stuff that nowhere near the limit is much cheaper.

but of course, if your competitors use the same engine, but start tuning it, it's ruined.

[Coach 2]

why should it be a 4 cylinder?
that's the whole point. pushing stuff to the limit is very expensive, using commercially available stuff that nowhere near the limit is much cheaper.

but of course, if your competitors use the same engine, but start tuning it, it's ruined.

If it,s a front-engine car you most certainly need 4 cylinder.
6 sylinder mid-engine, or what kinde of car do you have in mind.
Reemember, it supposed and foremost gone be cheap.