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    Quote Originally Posted by nafpaktos View Post
    Pluto i would like to ask you what do you think about this project.I mean do you believe that a car without official team to the rallies(either erc or wrc) can beat cars running under official teams?The two best cars ford and skoda are running with full support.See what happen to peugeot,citroen,hyundai.Why this venture should have different fate?
    I am sure that R5 cars can be in very good condition in private hands. I think that Gemini Citroen DS3 R5 was better than any other factory car. I think that Fabias of BRR or Kresta Racing are on similar level like factory cars. So with private cars you can beat factory cars. But there are different issues - if you are going with factory, you have lot of kms of testing before events, you have almost no limits with changing spare parts etc. I think that is the biggest difference between privateer and factory driver...

    Not so big success of Peugeot, Citroen or Hyundai is from different reasons, for me. Peugeot and Citroen had bad reputation from beginning and they had (and still have) issues which are not working at all. With the Hyundai it is different story - I think that factory made a mistake with "promotion" - there is not enough strong drivers who should show the potential of the car...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRC1 View Post
    i belive there will be (as pluto said) very few, very precisley choosen teams such as BRR to run the cars....and such Teams can for sure beat cars run directly from factory!
    As next year there will be build only very limited number of cars and interest is really huge, they have a chance to choose. So primary they will deliver the cars to big teams like BRR or to the teams with official dealership support and also to strong markets... When they will make more cars, it will go also to other teams...

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    Polo looks nice but as the road car is so wide it doesn't look as wild as some other R5s.

    From that one video it has a similar lazy, long geared sound to the Fabia, but that's no surprise.

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    Can You post link to the video?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Can You post link to the video?
    The twitter link on the previous page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    I am sure that R5 cars can be in very good condition in private hands. I think that Gemini Citroen DS3 R5 was better than any other factory car.

    I think that Fabias of BRR or Kresta Racing are on similar level like factory cars.
    Μaybe i wasn't clear enough.I was not reffering to national championsips,we all know that Paolos car in Italy was perfect for example.I mean how good are to international level.About Fabias of BRR or Kresta Racing the car is also running by factory team and that's why these cars are so good,we say the same thing.
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    Polo video from Colin Clark facebook page
    https://www.facebook.com/voiceofrall...I00a4tMtmy-q_Y
    Last edited by RICARDO75; 7th December 2017 at 18:54.

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    if you just design the car(even if the product is really good) and you do not follow it to rallies as a factory team i think you have a HUGE disadvantage compared to other teams that follow their cars with their official engineers.i have been many times to tests and the difference between a factory team and a private team is HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE from all aspects.I think there is a big difference to collect the data directly (from your own )than from a team that you have a cooperation.By that they know the car much better and can evolve it more efficiently
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