Citroen WRT

[itix]

Yes, I am criticizing both. Its entirely the same issue with DS3, both dampers and traction. The DS3 was never a match, for example the VW, and he went very close to winning in Monte, and Sweden in 2016 against Ogier, both to have car failure. Look, you dont like him, and will always seem to find fact that suit your argument. But the fast is.. he is one of 3/4 fastest in the WRC.

If we go by individual stage performances, Kubica was also one of the fastest in the WRC. The difference is that Kubica was funded by himself/sponsors, not by a world rally team. One would expect more from a professional paid driver. Meeke has been nothing short of a disgrace this year.

[wrc2017]

Of course you are right.. winning a wrc event and leading another when engine failed. Utter digrace from your keyboard.

If we go by individual stage performances, Kubica was also one of the fastest in the WRC. The difference is that Kubica was funded by himself/sponsors, not by a world rally team. One would expect more from a professional paid driver. Meeke has been nothing short of a disgrace this year.

[AnttiL]

Meeke also was in the lead in the beginning of Portugal and Sardegna and second in Argentina before crashing out.

[wrc2017]

Id like to know what itix is a professional in.

[noel157]

Have to say this place feels like it's going downhill at times judging by recent posts. One guy spending a lot of time looking up stats on eWRC and writing long posts to back up his hatred of Meeke. Another calling him a disgrace and a complete idiot, another who feels the need to start a league table of accidents, another who thinks marshals and prohibited areas are not needed and spectators can stand on the stages......hope things can improve because members who contribute nonsense like the above do nothing for a great rally forum in my opinion.

[AnttiL]

https://www.rallye-magazin.de/wrc/ar...kelsen-plaene/

Google Translated:

The four-time champion recently opened up a possibility. Citroën Teamchef Yves Matton came under great pressure after the failed comeback and now seems to be ready to consider his driver's choice. Kris Meeke, Craig Breen and Stephane Lefebvre have a contract for 2018, but the last rallies showed how little the guarantee is for a WRC cockpit, when Andreas Mikkelsen came as a substitute driver for two assignments. Since then, Ogier has been philosophizing publicly about his future, but all doors are now closed in France.

"We have some ideas and know which drivers are on the market," said Matton, "Motorsport aktuell". For reasons of budget, Citroën can only afford another high-caliber, even if the Matton does not want to admit directly. "The only thing I can rule out is that more than one new driver is going to be added." In other words, Ogier, or Mikkelsen.

Maybe someone who knows German can check the article and tell what is actually said?

[Norm75]

Lol Citroen teamchef. Is that Yves job title next year!

[noel157]

The Google translation seems clear enough.

[mknight]

https://www.rallye-magazin.de/wrc/ar...kelsen-plaene/

Maybe someone who knows German can check the article and tell what is actually said?

It's basically exactly the same speculations we had in the 2018 team topic.

The only "new" ideas is that Citroen can/want only 1 new driver which means either Ogier or Mikkelsen. And the repeated point that came in the topic here that Latvala would not work well with Ogier in same team.

But one of their main points (and article title) is that Ogier could stop Mikkelsen's plans to go to Citroen. Personally I don't think Citroen is Mikkelsen's first choice for next season, maybe not even 2nd. Probably the same applies to Ogier.

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For the record:
I have nothing against Meeke. He is a good driver that certainly still deserves a seat. The only topics I have issues with are:

1. Based on his results over that last 3 years I really don't get how some people still rank him as one of the main possible title challengers. Is he fast? Sure. Is he stable and/or significantly faster than others? Nope.

2. If he is to improve his stability he seriously needs some change (team orders?, mental coach?, different co-driver?), saying that crashing 4 times in 3 consecutive rallies in a row is only cars fault will clearly not make Meeke get more stable. (or more wanted by other teams)

[racerx1979]

Have to say this place feels like it's going downhill at times judging by recent posts. One guy spending a lot of time looking up stats on eWRC and writing long posts to back up his hatred of Meeke. Another calling him a disgrace and a complete idiot, another who feels the need to start a league table of accidents, another who thinks marshals and prohibited areas are not needed and spectators can stand on the stages......hope things can improve because members who contribute nonsense like the above do nothing for a great rally forum in my opinion.

What he said ^^