Toyota announces WRC plans

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Even in tarmac spec it looks like a fart

It's the smallness of the base car that's the problem...

Like back in the 80's with the Metro 6R4, it was never going to look great full of scoops and wings when based on that tiny shopping car.

[Mirek]

The funny thing is that Yaris is a lot bigger than MG Metro. Metro is reasonably smaller than today's smallest cars like Ford Ka.

[BigWorm]

It's the smallness of the base car that's the problem...

Like back in the 80's with the Metro 6R4, it was never going to look great full of scoops and wings when based on that tiny shopping car.

I guess it can't perform as bad as it looks

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The funny thing is that Yaris is a lot bigger than MG Metro. Metro is reasonably smaller than today's smallest cars like Ford Ka.

It's the basic Yaris styling as well... its about as unlike a rally car as you can get... like the basic Metro was. Thus making its aero additions look all the more ridiculous.

[stefanvv]

I guess it can't perform as bad as it looks

Of course it can, haven't You ever tried jet engine on Your skateboard?

[liposh]

Talking of DTM... spoke to some guys from Toyota and that was the refrence that they made talking about aero, they said that their car generates more downforce than a DTM car..

Why would they generate more downforce than a DTM car? It is so counter-productive to have WRC with such huge downforce.

[Mirek]

It is so counter-productive to have WRC with such huge downforce.

And You base Your statement on what? You know that traction (both in acceleration and deceleration) is a function of downforce and that the adhesion of gravel is way lower than of circuit tarmac?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

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The Yaris WRC no longer looks like a run around with a picnic table strapped to the back, its now a bloody monster! https://t.co/yXPRiU077w

[liposh]

Downforce is fine, but do you know how huge the downforce is in DTM? I know it. Even without knowing those facts all of us have watched the video, You know the effect of Yaris aerokit (understeering, low top speeds etc.) . You saw it. You are a wise man, Mirek, so why do You have such need to argue with us every single time?

[Mirek]

Downforce is fine, but do you know how huge the downforce is in DTM? I know it. Even without knowing those facts all of us have watched the video, You know the effect of Yaris aerokit (understeering, low top speeds etc.) . You saw it. You are a wise man, Mirek, so why do You have such need to argue with us every single time?

Because You write nonsense. Downforce can not make a car to understeer because downforce has no inertia... Of course unless we speak about downforce only at the back which would lift the front end but that's quite obviously not the case. Otherwise bigger downforce at front end always reduces understeering. Always.

Another nonsense is what You wrote about top speed. How do You know what is the top speed of Yaris and that it can't be reached due to aero drag? I am pretty sure You don't know.