Rally Italia Sardegna '16

[Mirek]

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Dear Danon, You don't need to show me that again. I can read and I am sure You can do that too. So please read the whole text again. The penalty is not for the weight but for the shape. The weight difference is there written most likely only to show that it was irrelevant.

Had the document something to do with wrong weight, it must have contained exact values and their respective tolerances to be valid.

Hmm, I'm not saying he knows exactly how much seconds will lose for 6km, that's impossible. Be he surely can judge his pace well enough.... If he knows how many secs/km, it is enough information for 6, 60 or 600 kms....

Tell me how much I have to slow down to loose 10 seconds on 600 km? I know how to loose 10 seconds on 6 km but I'm quite sure that nobody ever walking on this planet could know how much to slow down to loose 10 seconds on 600 km.

Just count those s/km for 6, 60 and 600 km and compare the result. I hope You then understand.

[stefanvv]

Tell me how much I have to slow down to loose 10 seconds on 600 km? I know how to loose 10 seconds on 6 km but I'm quite sure that nobody ever walking on this planet could know how much to slow down to loose 10 seconds on 600 km.

Just count those s/km for 6, 60 and 600 km and compare the result. I hope You then understand.

If You want to be that precise then a spin on a corner will do the job. But I guess it doesn't matter if it is 10, 20 or 30 seconds for 600 kms regulating the pace.
On the contrary how do You know how You'll loose 10 seconds for 6km by pure pace, of course the chance is higher than for 600kms but it'll never happen because You're not super-human. It'll always be +- some seconds.

[Mirek]

If You want to be that precise then a spin on a corner will do the job. But I guess it doesn't matter if it is 10, 20 or 30 seconds for 600 kms regulating the pace.
On the contrary how do You know how You'll loose 10 seconds for 6km by pure pace, of course the chance is higher than for 600kms but it'll never happen because You're not super-human. It'll always be +- some seconds.

Stefan, please... think about it again. That's complete nonsense what You say. Yes, You can do a spin and loose 10 seconds but the key is from which value do You need to loose it - that's not Your time but time of Your opponent.

If weight makes no difference it won't be mentioned in the Stewards Decision.

The devil is in the details - dear bohemian comrade.

Please read that text again because You are wrong.

[danon]

Please read that text again because You are wrong.

Read it I did.
Wrong I am not.
Grams mentioned I saw.
Long live the Empire VW.
It smells politics (change rules).
Money talks.

Grams do matter!

[stefanvv]

Stefan, please... think about it again. That's complete nonsense what You say. Yes, You can do a spin and loose 10 seconds but the key is from which value do You need to loose it - that's not Your time but time of Your opponent.

Ok, I'm not talking about opponent's time, just one's own one. For sure there is more precise info with split times and engineers with computers will tell You on the radio to stop for N secs before the stage end.
But if You know before the stage You have to lose min 20 secs for a 30 km stage, probably You'll know what pace will be enough to lose them. Mikkelsen had to lose today by few seconds, but lost 18+ for 6km. Isn't that odd for such a short stage, yet these were enough for his purpose.

[Rally Power]

Huge congrats to Neuville/Gilsoul and Hyundai. Neuville is one of the best drivers around and it’s great to see him on the top again. In Portugal he looked already to be in a better mood and he reacted to the fuel problem with a strong team spirit. Hyundai’s tech work must also be praised as they’re now clearly on VW’s pace. Camilli did also a nice rally and it seems his progressing is now taking its natural course. I know Lappi isn’t much valued here, but his times in today SS’s were simply outstanding. Can’t wait to see him on a ’17 WRC car!

Btw, there was another manu involved in Sardegna. Abarth entered a small R3T 500 for the young Italian rally challenge winners, Fusio/Salgaro, and they’ve managed to take it to the final podium and win RC3 class. Quite an adventure! https://www.facebook.com/RallyItaliaTalent/

[Mirek]

Ok, I'm not talking about opponent's time, just one's own one. For sure there is more precise info with split times and engineers with computers will tell You on the radio to stop for N secs before the stage end.

I thought that it's forbidden.

[stefanvv]

I thought that it's forbidden.

Of course it is, I just use it as reference. It is not so easy to predict exact time loss no matter how long the stage is, but a driver can judge his pace well enough to lose minimum target time. Of course with longer stages it is more difficult, but my point generally is they can reach minimum target time loss, how bigger it'll really be is anyone's guess. Will he just be slow on some parts of the entire stage or just little slower on the entire stage is his preference.

[danon]

Dear Danon, You don't need to show me that again. I can read and I am sure You can do that too. So please read the whole text again. The penalty is not for the weight but for the shape. The weight difference is there written most likely only to show that it was irrelevant.

If weight makes no difference it won't be mentioned in the Stewards Decision.

The devil is in the details - dear bohemian comrade.