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29th July 2015, 06:15 #11
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Graham Hill is the only driver to have won the Triple Crown (under either definition). He won Le Mans in 1972, the Indy 500 in 1966 and two F1 world championships.
Jim Clark has a BTCC Championship to his name in 1966, two world championships and the 1965 Indy 500.
Jacky Ickx has six Le Mans victories to his name, the 1983 Paris-Dakar, 1977 Bathurst 1000, 1966 Spa 24 Hours, 1979 Can-Am Championship and his 8 GP victories are nothing to be sneezed at (he came close to a championship though).The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
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29th July 2015, 10:17 #12
...Back to my perennial theme. The guy who can be quick in anything he is given. The only F1 driver to actually win a major rally (forget Moss and his gentleman drives to a good dinner in the Sunbeams). In the space of 3 months at the start of 68 he won the Monte, Daytona 24 hrs and took 4th in the Spanish GP driving the dog that was the Cooper-BRM. He also went on that year to win his class in the British Saloon Car Championship in a 911.
His exploits in owning the Targa Florio are also the stuff of legend.
The fact that he never got a decent run at F1 after 68 is immaterial given he was one of the few guys (Rodriguez, Redman, Attwood) who could really drive a 917. I give you Vic Elford.Kris Meeke got fired -PSG so terrified they quit!
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29th July 2015, 14:20 #13
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I agree on Hill, though I would rate Clark a little higher. I'd completely forgotten Elford as I didn't have an opportunity to see him.
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29th July 2015, 22:23 #14
Elford of course also drove CanAm in the 2J
Kris Meeke got fired -PSG so terrified they quit!
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29th July 2015, 23:00 #15
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Whilst I agree that Vic Elford is often overlooked, I think it is a little uncharitable to dismiss Moss's three Alpine Rally penalty-free runs out of hand.
If you look at the results of the 1964 Safari you'll see that Ford Cortina GTs took the team prize finishing 1st, 3rd and 10th. The 10th place car was driven by Vic Elford and Lionel Baillon. The reason they were so far behind their team mates is interesting. About 30 miles from the finish a half shaft broke. The service car didn't have a spare and there were no Cortina driving spectators to donate one. Towing a car was prohibited by the regulations. So they wired a tyre to the front of the service car as a fender and pushed the stricken Cortina to the finish at full speed. At controls they 'juddered' the car away then carried on with the pushing once it was clear of the control.. There was a right royal fuss with protests flying but the organisers had to concede that it was within the rules.Last edited by D-Type; 29th July 2015 at 23:06.
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1st August 2015, 01:44 #16
After 5 stages, top 11 covered by less than 30 seconds and top 20 covered by 1 minute 42 seconds.
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