Yeh, what I mean is that Lappi is not a Sordo, an experienced guy to secure manufacturer points, but he's not either a total newbie, having already won a rally and being on the pace in all rallies this year. It's true that 2018 is more of an experience gaining year for Lappi, but he's also capable of winning. Maybe Latvala will become the experienced guy who secures manufacturer points when the wild fast guys fail? Wouldn't have expected to say that a year ago.