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    Who's to blame for Honda's misery?

    Since BAR become Honda in 2006, they have gone down and down the pecking order. With only one win and one pole, it's clear that Honda fans (and British) are really dissapointed by their preformances, but who's really to blame for Honda's misery?

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    probably not only one person can be blamed, maybe Nick Fry is the one with the biggest responsability in their failure

    It's just that some teams get it right and some(say Toyota and Honda) might not get it right ever
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    Quote Originally Posted by FIA
    Since BAR become Honda in 2006, they have gone down and down the pecking order. With only one win and one pole, it's clear that Honda fans (and British) are really dissapointed by their preformances, but who's really to blame for Honda's misery?
    Umm......Honda?

    Seriously, if Honda had let Richards continue then they wouldn't be in the mess they are in. The Honda hierarchy in Japan got spooked by Button-gate and showed Richards the door for no good reason. Only those enamoured of a certain French-Canadian think getting rid of Richards was a good idea.

    The people making the decisions since then haven't done a very good job.

    Unless Fry can act as an effective firewall between Brawn and the suits in Japan then Honda will continue to occupy the back half of the grid. If Brawn gets the freedom to organise the engineering team the way he wants it and to hire and fire as he sees fit then his track record would suggest that it's only a matter of time before Honda are near the front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FIA
    Since BAR become Honda in 2006, they have gone down and down the pecking order. With only one win and one pole, it's clear that Honda fans (and British) are really dissapointed by their preformances, but who's really to blame for Honda's misery?
    The environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIA
    Since BAR become Honda in 2006, they have gone down and down the pecking order. With only one win and one pole, it's clear that Honda fans (and British) are really dissapointed by their preformances, but who's really to blame for Honda's misery?
    Harbadjhan, of course - he made a monkey out of this team.
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    just don't blame Jacques...

    might get fousto mad.

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    I think the fact that the 2007 car looked like it was covered in baby vomit might have been the reason. The new livery looks ok, so maybe it will perform better this year
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    I blame Bernie and Max. I don't need a reason why.
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    IMHO

    #1 Honda #2 Honda #3 Honda....

    Their engines are possessed by a god, everything else should be left to the brits. Buying into a mediocre team and leaving a blank check (toyot...) does not work, also JV is not a developmental driver. Harvey Postwaite developed a marvelous car, but he died in 99 and Honda never used it. David Richards got them on the right track (finally) but the eastern-CEO's fired him because he made Button mad 2004. Ever since the team has been in chaos.

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    From what ive been told about how the Japanise engineers and managment work. If a part of the car doesent work they will fiddle and knitpick for ever rather than give up and design somthing else. They need to leave the Europeons in charge and just leave them the money as the post above says. One or two people can be in charge of an F1 team, not a whole table full of people back in Japan.

    Thats what went wrong, i get the feeling Dave Richards tried to stop them calling the shots and he was shoved out the door.
    good luck RBR

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