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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyfun
    It's not only about a rock on the road in Mexico it's about his performance over couple of seasons.
    Yeah right. How come this thread was then quiet for nearly five months? Everytime something happens to JML, the hyenas come out. It's funny because it's so evident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
    Yeah right. How come this thread was then quiet for nearly five months? Everytime something happens to JML, the hyenas come out. It's funny because it's so evident.
    It's also funny how you show support so blindly for a driver who in 6 years in the WRC hasn't done anything substantial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francis44
    It's also funny how you show support so blindly for a driver who in 6 years in the WRC hasn't done anything substantial.
    My "supporting" is not blind and it's not that funny... Seven WRC victories (incl. Finland, Sweden & GB) is not a substantial achievement? Apparently you then don't consider drivers like Märtin, Delecour, Toivonen and Ragnotti to have done anything substantial as they all have less WRC victories than JM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
    Yeah right. How come this thread was then quiet for nearly five months? Everytime something happens to JML, the hyenas come out. It's funny because it's so evident.
    All is on his shoulders now for proper championship fight. This is where the problem comes from. Ogier might mark Ostberg as his championship rival, but I don't think so, though he has the best chances among the rest Citroen & Ford.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
    My "supporting" is not blind and it's not that funny... Seven WRC victories (incl. Finland, Sweden & GB) is not a substantial achievement? Apparently you then don't consider drivers like Märtin, Delecour, Toivonen and Ragnotti to have done anything substantial as they all have less WRC victories than JM.
    All of those examples you gave are not ok. Did any of those drivers enjoy 6 years in the same team?! Had they the same level off oposition?! No.

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    I remember him in the Focus in the BRC in 2004/5, he was amazing......theres incar of his stuff thats awesome !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francis44
    It's also funny how you show support so blindly for a driver who in 6 years in the WRC hasn't done anything substantial.
    Apart from Loeb name anyone who has done something 'substantial' in the past 6 years. Hirvonen (only 2 years of the 6 as a No 2), Sordo (No wins), Petter S (No Wins) Ostberg (1 win - or none if you think Hirvonen was robbed ) Only Ogier has a more impressive record as a competitor.
    Interesting that the Ogier Hyenas have disappeared after the Monte outcry of 'arrogance'. (which was also rubbish!)
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    Anyone trying to make JML an everyday driver doesn´t know what they´re talking about. Circumstances and conditions varie för same driver over years. JML is documentadly fast driver having won several WRC rounds. Let´s give him a break and let him be used to new conditions in VW team.

    I disagree those making him a nobody because obviously it´s not true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
    Apart from Loeb name anyone who has done something 'substantial' in the past 6 years. Hirvonen (only 2 years of the 6 as a No 2), Sordo (No wins), Petter S (No Wins) Ostberg (1 win - or none if you think Hirvonen was robbed ) Only Ogier has a more impressive record as a competitor.
    Interesting that the Ogier Hyenas have disappeared after the Monte outcry of 'arrogance'. (which was also rubbish!)
    whats your problem with hyenas?


    Ogier is arrogant,of course thats something different from his excellent driving skills.

    ps hyenas waiting for Argentina.

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    If somebody even appear in Argentina, his excuse will be lost of rhythm

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