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    FIA rally commission proposed changes

    FIA rally commission has proposed few changes to the WRC rules:
    • Leader of the event will be first on the road except on first day when leader of the championship will be first on the road[/*:m:26ylrv4z]
    • max stage mileage raised to 400km instead of current 360km[/*:m:26ylrv4z]
    • 2009 onwards mixed surface events allowed[/*:m:26ylrv4z]
    These among several other proposed changes.

    About cars current WRC in use till end of 2009, 2010 still possible to use "old" WRC but with reduced power, changed aerodynamics and more weight to ensure the competitiveness of new WRC, 2011 onwards only with new WRC.

    All this subject of approval of FIA in their meeting next week.
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    Interesting, sounds good. I guess time will tell if this idea of reducing power on old WRC cars will work in order to compete with the new ones. Does this mean that new cars will have less power?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonJippo
    FIA rally commission has proposed few changes to the WRC rules:
    • Leader of the event will be first on the road except on first day when leader of the championship will be first on the road[/*:m:r84bhb0u]
    • max stage mileage raised to 400km instead of current 360km[/*:m:r84bhb0u]
    • 2009 onwards mixed surface events allowed[/*:m:r84bhb0u]
    These among several other proposed changes.

    About cars current WRC in use till end of 2009, 2010 still possible to use "old" WRC but with reduced power, changed aerodynamics and more weight to ensure the competitiveness of new WRC, 2011 onwards only with new WRC.

    All this subject of approval of FIA in their meeting next week.
    We will see what happens before 2011!
    Point 1. Do they mean Leader first on the road Friday and Saturday? I like It.
    Point 2. Verry good
    Point 3. Back to real rally.
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    Point 1 is back to history when the fastest man has to sweep the raod for the slower ones.
    Point 3 sounds good. A bit like we have/had in Rally Deutschland, with every day real difference in tarmac, so every day a different kind of set up and drivinng style.
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    Yes, if they are going to open up point 1 again, we're going to get the former tactic driving as in New Zealand and Australia, where nobody wants to be first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bennizw
    Yes, if they are going to open up point 1 again, we're going to get the former tactic driving as in New Zealand and Australia, where nobody wants to be first.
    I am afraid too. When I read it, I thought: "Oh no... Some drivers don't want be fast and slow down." Plan 2 is ok. I don't know how I must think about plan 3.

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    More F.I.A. news

    Source: http://www.rallye-magazin.de/r/wm/d/...ant/index.html

    Alta vista translation:

    The debuetants of this year Portugal and Ireland are not intended in the coming season, best karts to have are Jordan and Cyprus . The Rallye Poland is not considered any longer favorit. On the one hand the infrastructure (too few hotels) is the Observern a thorn in the eye, to second gave it 2007 two dead ones.
    Detail: The supervisor from the rally is calculated the son of the FIA Securety Jacek Bartos.
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    Question More F.I.A. News

    Source and altavista translation again:
    http://www.rallye-magazin.de/r/wm/d/...wrc/index.html

    The Super2000 with turbo could replace the "this in the future to WRC wRC-Cars is stressed a very important world council meeting", FIA technology specialist Jacques Berger. According to FIA set of rules the sport authority must inform the manufacturers with serious changes of technique 15 months in advance. Thus the World Council is on 24 October the last chance to decide starting from 2009 a new regulation. If it goes according to Berger and the highest Rallye functionary Morrie Chandler, under the work title "super the set of rules created steps 2000 pluses" into the first phase starting from the season after the next. A medium-term goal is the creation of clearly more inexpensive and less complicated technology, in order to lure new manufacturers into the WM. As basis the current Super-2000-Autos is to serve, which is to receive small turbocharger for the moderate increase from torque and achievement. Whether aufwaendige components are to be further permitted like electronics and anti-lying systems for the improvement of the responsing mode is decided only later. Berger does not count on the fact that already 2009 a car of the new category participate to the complete WM. Like that the debut year is only for test-in-corrodes with individual Rallyes intended. 2010 and 2011 are to be continuously in-braked then the WRC, in order to let it start in a transitional phase with the super 2000 plus cars in a class. 2012 are then only a category intended. Berger speaks reluctantly of an abolishment of the WRC regulation, it calls it a fusion. Possibly also the term World Rally Car remains existing further. With the comprehensive measures the FIA wants new manufacturers into the WM pilots. Allegedly Fiat already stands for rifle with foot. Also with Mitsubishi one liebaeugelt with a return, if the FIA permits to equip the future group n Lancer Evo X with larger liberties. Jacques Berger considers this variant quite conceivable. Whether the "agenda becomes 2012" reality, depends on this important 24 October however on the good will of the FIA president max Mosley. "you never know, what happens. Perhaps max decides that at the end all with 1,6 litre August engines and two-wheeler drive have to begin ", corrode the FIA a close standing engineer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother John
    Point 1. Do they mean Leader first on the road Friday and Saturday?
    It means that on Friday, the cars will run in championship order, then on Saturday the cars will run in the order they finished leg 1 and on Sunday in the order they finished leg 2.
    Quote Originally Posted by bennizw
    Yes, if they are going to open up point 1 again, we're going to get the former tactic driving as in New Zealand and Australia, where nobody wants to be first.
    The only place where drivers faced a huge disadvantage was Australia, when the rally was held in Perth. Now it's gone, I don't think there's anywhere where the drivers are penalised to any great extent. Look at the first day in Mexico, Finland or New Zealand this year.

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    I like it. Bringing back some real rallyness to the WRC



    I do wonder why the FIA are doing it though, it will be good for the nature of the sport and it won't make costs go down at all...
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