"Classic" Points Standings

[Sparky1329]

Yeah, the young bucks may embrace the Chase ...

but to us long-time fans the classic points mean something ...
the classic points system was used when :
Jeff Gordon won the most races & TOOK 4 championships by total domination ... (1995-1997-1998-2001)

Bobby Labonte (2000) & Terry Labonte (1984-1996) masterfully used consistancy to win championships ...

Dale Earnhardt AGGRESIVELY drove for every point to be "the man" 7 times ...
(1980-1986-1987-1990-1991-1993-1994)

Alan Kulwicki did the math to edge Bill Elliott by 10 points in the LAST race of the season ... (1992)

Rusty Wallace finally got his well-deserved championship ... (1989)
(several times Rusty Wallace won the most races but fell short for the championship)

Bill Elliott won the most races & edged Rusty Wallace by only 24 points ... (1988)

Darrell Waltrip raced with his ability & his intelligence to win the championship 3 times ... (1981-1982-1985)
The Champions I listed above raced EVERY race to the best of their ability & used all their cars could give.

The CLASSIC Points were for the ENTIRE season, not a phony 10 race "winner take all" senario !

A-frickin-men!

[muggle not]

As I have already stated, Kenseth would have won with any point system.

http://www.nascar.com/2003/news/opin...ith/index.html

Don't make me post that link 3 times in one thread!

who gives a rats azz about the O.W. racing series.
btw, I am curious. How would Kenseth have done under the "Nascar" point system currently in place. Now that might be interesting.

[tstran17_88]

who gives a rats azz about the O.W. racing series.
btw, I am curious. How would Kenseth have done under the "Nascar" point system currently in place. Now that might be interesting.

He is in 12th place with the current point system.

Or are we referring to 2003 using the current point system? You need to be a tad more specific.

My guess is Ryan Newman would be the 2003 champion using the 2007 points system, but it’s already been written into numerous articles when the ‘Chase’ was first announced that Jimmie would have beaten Matt for the championship in 2003 if they used the ‘new’ system in place in 2004.

You find this interesting? Or do you just feel like beating a dead horse further into the ground?

[tstran17_88]

your driver was the main reason of the stupid chase :

Talk to me when your driver has a Cup championship!



(Sorry, I'm fired up now!)

[call_me_andrew]

who gives a rats azz about the O.W. racing series.

I guess the answer would be anyone who cares enough to notice that it proves Kenseth deserved the championship.

[muggle not]

There are only 2 point systems that count. The Classic system and the current Nascar system of the Chase. Where would Kenseth have finished using the Chase system.

[Erki]

rank	driver	26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35	36	Bonus	TOTAL	
1	Johnson	5035	180	142	61	146	165	170	165	170	170	165	40	6609	
2	Gordon	5030	106	155	155	155	155	180	180	146	97	155	40	6554	-55
3	Newman	5025	138	180	160	180	170	155	76	165	155	52	35	6491	-118
4	Junior	5045	155	52	170	109	138	160	150	180	124	91	45	6419	-190
5	Harvick	5040	124	160	146	150	134	146	103	61	118	170	35	6387	-222
6	Kenseth	5050	146	138	64	55	142	124	130	150	160	34	15	6208	-401
7	BL	5020	115	70	130	112	150	40	155	55	142	180	25	6194	-415
8	TL	5010	109	103	97	115	109	150	64	73	127	118	15	6090	-519
9	Busch	5015	118	49	150	43	40	46	142	160	112	55	30	5960	-649
10	Waltrip	5005	85	37	180	46	121	85	49	155	52	40	10	5865	-744

Tony Stewart 11th.

[RaceFanStan]

There are only 2 point systems that count.
The Classic system and the current Nascar system of the Chase.
Where would Kenseth have finished using the Chase system.

What we got @ the end of 2003 :
01. 5022 points ~ Matt Kenseth
02. 4932 points ~ Jimmie Johnson
03. 4815 points ~ Dale Earnhardt Jr
04. 4785 points ~ Jeff Gordon
05. 4770 points ~ Kevin Harvick
06. 4711 points ~ Ryan Newman
07. 4549 points ~ Tony Stewart
08. 4377 points ~ Bobby Labonte
09. 4303 points ~ Bill Elliott
10. 4162 points ~ Terry Labonte
11. 4150 points ~ Kurt Busch
12. 4109 points ~ Jeff Burton
13. 3965 points ~ Jamie McMurray
14. 3950 points ~ Rusty Wallace
15. 3934 points ~ Michael Waltrip
16. 3856 points ~ Robby Gordon
17. 3769 points ~ Mark Martin
18. 3745 points ~ Sterling Marlin
19. 3736 points ~ Jeremy Mayfield
20. 3696 points ~ Greg Biffle

NOTE : 2007 Chase Rules
The top 12 drivers in the points after Race 26 will qualify for the Chase
All 12 drivers will have their point totals re-set to 5,000 points
Each will then receive a 10-point bonus for each race victory they had during the first 26 races
I also used the 2007 bonus for race wins.

after Race 26 @ Richmond Points Standings
using 2007 rules ~ more points for a win
01. 3874 points ~ 1 win ~ Matt Kenseth
02. 3456 points ~ 1 win ~ Dale Earnhardt Jr
03. 3433 points ~ 1 win ~ Kevin Harvick
04. 3383 points ~ 2 wins ~ Jimmie Johnson
05. 3325 points ~ 6 wins ~ Ryan Newman
06. 3281 points ~ 1 win ~ Jeff Gordon
07. 3245 points ~ 4 wins ~ Kurt Busch
08. 3218 points ~ 1 win ~ Bobby Labonte
09. 3092 points ~ 1 win ~ Terry Labonte
10. 3089 points ~ 1 win ~ Michael Waltrip
11. 3028 points ~ 1 win ~ Tony Stewart
12. 3010 points ~ 2 wins ~ Robby Gordon

Non-Chase Drivers Who Won a Race BEFORE the Chase :
Dale Jarrett ~ 1 win
Ricky Craven ~ 1 win
Joe Nemechek ~ 1 win
Greg Biffle ~ 1 win

Chase Points Standings after Race 26 @ Richmond
using 2007 rules ~ the Top 12 in Points are Locked-In
01. 5060 points ~ Ryan Newman
02. 5040 points ~ Kurt Busch
03. 5020 points ~ Jimmie Johnson
04. 5020 points ~ Robby Gordon
05. 5010 points ~ Matt Kenseth
06. 5010 points ~ Dale Earnhardt Jr
07. 5010 points ~ Kevin Harvick
08. 5010 points ~ Jeff Gordon
09. 5010 points ~ Bobby Labonte
10. 5010 points ~ Terry Labonte
11. 5010 points ~ Michael Waltrip
12. 5010 points ~ Tony Stewart

Ryan Newman would have began the Chase with the points lead
Matt Kenseth would have started in 5th !!!

What we would have had @ Homestead in 2003 IF it had been a Chase season :
(Wins are for DURING the Chase)
01. 6599 points ~ 1 win ~ Jimmie Johnson
02. 6546 points ~ 1 win ~ Tony Stewart
03. 6544 points ~ 2 wins ~ Jeff Gordon
04. 6536 points ~ 2 wins ~ Ryan Newman
05. 6389 points ~ 1 win ~ Dale Earnhardt Jr
06. 6357 points ~ 0 wins ~ Kevin Harvick
07. 6189 points ~ 1 win ~ Bobby Labonte
08. 6168 points ~ 0 wins ~ Matt Kenseth
09. 6090 points ~ 0 wins ~ Terry Labonte
10. 5985 points ~ 0 wins ~ Kurt Busch
11. 5886 points ~ 0 wins ~ Robby Gordon
12. 5875 points ~ 1 win ~ Michael Waltrip
13. 4313 points ~ 1 win ~ Bill Elliott
14. 4109 points ~ 0 wins ~ Jeff Burton
15. 3965 points ~ 0 wins ~ Jamie McMurray
16. 3950 points ~ 0 wins ~ Rusty Wallace
17. 3769 points ~ 0 wins ~ Mark Martin
18. 3745 points ~ 0 wins ~ Sterling Marlin
19. 3736 points ~ 0 wins ~ Jeremy Mayfield
20. 3706 points ~ 0 wins ~ Greg Biffle

Race by Race Break-Down :
--- ~ DRIVER ~ Begin ~ 27 ~ 28 ~ 29 ~ 30 ~ 31 ~ 32 ~ 33 ~ 34 ~ 35 ~ 36 ~ Total
01. Jimmie Johnson 5020 190 142 066 151 170 170 170 175 175 170 6599
02. Tony Stewart 5010 103 170 165 160 190 170 180 109 138 151 6546
03. Jeff Gordon 5010 111 160 165 155 155 195 190 146 097 160 6544
04. Ryan Newman 5060 143 190 160 190 175 155 081 170 160 052 6536
05. Earnhardt Jr 5010 165 057 175 114 143 165 155 190 124 091 6389
06. Kevin Harvick 5010 129 170 151 150 134 151 108 061 118 175 6357
07. Bobby Labonte 5010 115 070 135 117 155 040 160 055 142 190 6189
08. Matt Kenseth 5010 151 143 069 055 142 124 130 150 160 034 6168
09. Terry Labonte 5010 109 103 102 115 109 155 064 073 127 123 6090
10. Kurt Busch 5040 118 049 155 048 040 051 147 170 112 055 5985
11. Robby Gordon 5020 105 094 132 088 049 055 100 067 103 073 5886
12. Michael Waltrip 5010 090 037 190 046 121 085 049 155 052 040 5875

The 2003 Champion Matt Kenseth would have finished in 8th !!!

[Erki]

Whooooops.

Btw, I didn't forget the laps led bonus points. Those are all in the "bonus" column. I didn't bother with a full-scale top-end excel workbook so I just added those bonuses up. Maybe I even mesed something up.

And I forgot to do it 2007-style. :\

[nigelred5]

Meh, they all race for points, so who knows how differently anyone in contention would have raced. When a top 5 is as good as a win, why bother racing too hard. Give me the classic, 5 free cartons of Winstons at every race back.