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    The Great Robbery

    Now how many racers do you know that should have gotten a ride and didn't
    because of lack of sponsorship?. I managed probably had the fastest US driver at one time and his seat was bought out by Provomi Veal for Ari Luyendyke. So how many guys are in F1 because of bucks VS raw talent.

    What if in F1 the pinnacle you could't but a drive ?
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    Didn't Bourdais lose out to Monteiro in the '05 Jordan seat because Monteiro brought more dough?

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    No he wasn't even considered Trevor Carlin just called Monteiro and Karthikeyen, two drivers who had driven for him either the previous year or in the past, and told them if they could get the sponsors they would have a drive in F1. Carlin already had a partnership with Portuguese sponsors in the World Series, F3 and Formula BMW so that was taken care of while Karthikeyen was always going to be able to find sponsors in India.
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    does not getting a drive in a decent car count ,then i pick Alex Wurz,unless you count the one shot he had in 2005..........
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    Well..Wurz din't have a race winning car, but if you say decent, I'd say Benetton was a decent car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fousto
    Now how many racers do you know that should have gotten a ride and didn't because of lack of sponsorship?. I managed probably had the fastest US driver at one time and his seat was bought out by Provomi Veal for Ari Luyendyke. So how many guys are in F1 because of bucks VS raw talent. What if in F1 the pinnacle you could't but a drive ?
    If you lack talent, you'd better bring money. Having both would be convenient in the hyper-political world of F1.
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    Sorry fousto, but I have to agree with you that is the sad state of affairs in F1 right now. Pay drivers, or drivers who can bring a lot of sponsorship cash make up a huge part of F1. Williams used to hire champions and champions in the making; now it's all about cash. Sad, I know!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
    Sorry fousto, but I have to agree with you that is the sad state of affairs in F1 right now. Pay drivers, or drivers who can bring a lot of sponsorship cash make up a huge part of F1. Williams used to hire champions and champions in the making; now it's all about cash. Sad, I know!!
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    So few people get a chance to try motorsport, due to the costs involved.

    It's highly likely that the most naturally talented racing driver in the world has never even sat in a racing car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
    Sorry fousto, but I have to agree with you that is the sad state of affairs in F1 right now. Pay drivers, or drivers who can bring a lot of sponsorship cash make up a huge part of F1. Williams used to hire champions and champions in the making; now it's all about cash. Sad, I know!!
    There are less pay drivers on the grid now than there used to be.

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