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    Was not Lewis quite dirty at the start!?

    Jeez I'm surprised I haven't seen any posts about it... Ok, that was flat out dirty nearly pushing Massa into the grass on the front stretch at the start. Then he proceeds to cut the chicane without penalty. He said post race that he outbraked Alonso and Massa going into turn 1....um...lol...More like you braked way too late and then tried to force yourself onto Massa's line in which you luckily only banged tires and even more luckily didn't damage your car whereas Massa's was damaged...

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    None complained about it so that probably was ok, but for sure it wasn't a great start
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    It was a little messy when he banged wheels with Massa, but thats racing. The pass on Raikkonen was exceptional. Bit of a pity the cameras only focused on it just after he made the pass.

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    It was great stuff from LH. He is a commited racer who doesnt give an inch. He squeezed Massa but left him a car width of space. Nothing wrong with that!
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    I saw it slightly dirty as the way he overtook Kimi, what maneuver he has made going into someone else's racing line, but probably it was his fashion, poor Massa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevincal
    He said post race that he outbraked Alonso and Massa going into turn 1....um...lol...
    Hamilton is exceptionally skilled on the brakes as he showed with his pass of Raikkonen and turn 1, lap 1 was another example. Massa followed Alonso on the inside of the corner and LH simply outbraked them around the outside. Nothing wrong with that move. The only reason he had to take to the chicane was because Massa's front hit LH's rear tyre.

    Hamilton's move to the left at the start was hard but fair because he left Massa just enough room. It reminded me of Jones/Villeneuve at Monaco in 1981.

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    I didn't, I like more beautiful passing as the part of strategical effort than such hard overtaking may endanger someone else. And purportedly, without TC we may see more overtaking harder than it.

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    I'm still a little iffy about cars using runoff areas at chicanes as a means of gaining an advantage (or minimizing disadvantage), as a car ahead but offline at a chicane can cut the chicane over the bumpy plastic and then, by means of blocking, still maintain that advantage going into the next turn.

    So as far as his lap one effort goes, I thought it was a tad poor... similarly was the case with Alonso in Monaco '05 and Schumacher in Hungary '06, although this time it was never eventually rectified.

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    Hamilton's opening lap move(s) on Massa were just about inside the limit of what I'd consider fair, and any driver who can maximise the rules to their advantage is fine by me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevincal
    Jeez I'm surprised I haven't seen any posts about it... Ok, that was flat out dirty nearly pushing Massa into the grass on the front stretch at the start. Then he proceeds to cut the chicane without penalty. He said post race that he outbraked Alonso and Massa going into turn 1....um...lol...More like you braked way too late and then tried to force yourself onto Massa's line in which you luckily only banged tires and even more luckily didn't damage your car whereas Massa's was damaged...
    Come on, he can't do anything wrong!

    Not like he didn't do more than one defensive moves a few times during that first lap when Felipe tried to go by again.

    On the other hand Felipe forgot how to race again, like in Sepang. Should he have been a bit more aggressive, like in Spain, he would have been and stayed ahead easily.

    I was wondering what would have Hamy's thoughts after that chicane if it was MS driving the red car?! Something along these lines: "Sh!t, these bumps on the inside of the chicane can do no good!"

    But Kimi didn't put up to much fight either.
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