[WRC] Rally Sweden 2024

[Morte66]

Since we haven't discussed rules enough yet...

What about Neuville's position change with Evans? He kept the new running order the next day. It possibly kept Evans behind Formaux on Saturday costing 2 WDC/WCC points.

I'm sure it wasn't deliberate. But, now that it's happened, I wonder whether somebody might be tempted to do it deliberately in future.

I think the authorities should get ahead of that.

[Eli]

Hyundai does win the two first rally's of the season

First time ever they achieve that feat, it's also nice to see a different driver other than Tänak or Neuville win with Hyundai (yes Sordo won but that was 3+ years ago). Great to see Lappi back on the top step of the podium, it has been too long! The scoring system is messed up but we'll now have 6 (almost) weeks to discuss it and in 2 weeks we'll see the 'results' of the survey.

[denkimi]

Since we haven't discussed rules enough yet...

What about Neuville's position change with Evans? He kept the new running order the next day. It possibly kept Evans behind Formaux on Saturday costing 2 WDC/WCC points.

I'm sure it wasn't deliberate. But, now that it's happened, I wonder whether somebody might be tempted to do it deliberately in future.

I think the authorities should get ahead of that.

i don't understand why he didn't do it deliberately after or even before the first stage. he won the lost time back in just one stage.

[WRCStan]

Can't wait for when the Saturday leader gets a puncture on the first stage of Sunday changes a wheel losing 2 and a half minutes, then wins the PS and goes home with most points while finishing P6 overall. Better have your fire suit handy.

I didn't invent this system or implement it. I don't have to defend it, it isn't perfect. No system is else there wouldn't have been change. But I'm stuck with it, same as you are, and I'm trying to make reason out of it whilst leaving the whining to others, spare the odd sarcasm post in return. Doon asked a reasonable question, I tried to answer reasonably.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

At least with this points system the best overall driver during the whole rally got the most points (Evans), not the guy who mainly benefitted from a great road position (Lappi).

[WRCStan]

Hey! I have no complaints if Lappi got his 25 points plus points for Sunday. Now he got only 18 points for victory. Here we have the big fault, guys.

You have the old pointscoring system for o/a rally. AND points for Sunday only, plus PS points.

Do that and I will not protest.

As it is now it´s disaster.

May I ask, without wanting to appear like I'm defending this system...

Thierry's win on pace pushed to the end in Monte, and Lappi's win in Sweden helped by road position and the attrition...

Are/should they be equally rewarded in the championship, not detracting from deservedness of the win?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The general consensus on X is about 10-1 against the new points system...

https://x.com/OfficialWRC/status/175...300656256?s=20

[Morte66]

So...

Evans drove hard and fast on all days and was rewarded with top points. I think he possibly drove ever-so-slightly too hard because he had quite a lot of hard knocks on snowbanks.

Lappi was handed the rally victory on a plate and didn't throw it away. He looked like a safe pair of hands, which is what Hyundai will want from their third driver, so good job.

Neuville did very well under the circumstances. He drove hard and fast, and didn't blow it. He looks very strong so far this season.

Fourmaux got third place on a plate. But he didn't blow it either, and he absolutely earned the 2nd on Saturday.

Rovanpera, Tanak and Katsuta blew it.

Munster has driven every stage of every rally, which is a success in his separate world.

Bertelli beat four Rally 1 drivers who were entered for points and had fun doing it. So that's a success in his world, too.

[seb_sh]

I didn't invent this system or implement it. I don't have to defend it, it isn't perfect. No system is else there wouldn't have been change. But I'm stuck with it, same as you are, and I'm trying to make reason out of it whilst leaving the whining to others, spare the odd sarcasm post in return. Doon asked a reasonable question, I tried to answer reasonably.

Sorry, I didn't intend to be negative to you personally or directly. Put it a different way, if you dislike the current whining, be prepared, it will probably get worse. Out of curiosity, I checked twitter where people reply directly the the official account posts and I believe I'm not exagerating when I say 90% of posts are negative and, being twitter, a lot more rude than here.

[becher]

Since we haven't discussed rules enough yet...

What about Neuville's position change with Evans? He kept the new running order the next day. It possibly kept Evans behind Formaux on Saturday costing 2 WDC/WCC points.

I'm sure it wasn't deliberate. But, now that it's happened, I wonder whether somebody might be tempted to do it deliberately in future.

I think the authorities should get ahead of that.

Stuff like this happened unashamedly deliberate in the past, I think there is a video of Burns having a "puncture". I don't get the uproar of the media and Evans about a technical problem, even if it would have been tactics it wouldn't be something unheard of.